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Are you an introvert or a highly sensitive person feeling overwhelmed, and in need of some guidance on how to live authentically as your true self?

In this episode, David and Jessi Michel Agadoni talk about the gifts of introverts, natural sensitives and empaths. They discuss how understanding and embracing these gifts can help us heal, live authentically, and create a healthier life.

Listen now to unlock your inner potential to create an authentic life that reflects who you truly are!

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Jessi Michel Agadoni is a Sensitive Health Guide. Her purpose is to help Introverts, Empaths and Natural Sensitives cultivate success without succumbing to constant overwhelm, anxiety, depression, auto-immunity, or any other body imbalance that could prevent them from having the impact they are called to have on this world! Her practice, Mêrfleur marefluer Wellness, and unique Authentic Calm Method teach Natural Sensitives how to rebuild their calm and resiliency to create sustainable health. She deeply believes that if all tender spirits live in alignment the world will be a much more beautiful and peaceful place.

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Website:  merfleurwellness.com
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Timestamped Overview

[00:02:26] Person is an introvert, empath and highly sensitive.

[00:14:02] Soul mate allows freedom and rest from codependency and draining boundaries.

[00:19:34] Introverts and empaths are not the same; labels can help identify traits; introverts often mistakenly seen as “not people people”; cultural negativity around sensitivity and introversion.

[00:24:53] Introverts and extroverts need each other to have a balanced society; both must be respected and valued for their individual gifts.

[00:27:37] Sensitive people have the gift of gathering more information from experiences than others, and use it to help and inform the rest of humankind, but must heal themselves first to have a greater impact.

[00:31:21] Introverts embrace quieter lifestyle, have unique gifts allowing them to process information deeply, often leading to feelings of overwhelm.

[00:34:46] Having the ability to read people requires wisdom, discretion and understanding of when it is appropriate to share insights.

[00:37:30] Helping sensitives heal their bodies through functional nutrition, data, intuition, and lifestyle changes.

[00:42:24] Using personal intake forms and Human Design system to uncover authentic self; Marriage of astrology, intuition and conversation to understand emotions; Empowering clients to understand body’s messages and live authentically.

[00:52:15] Healing journey for sensitives: Maryflore Wellness (Instagram, podcast, website), Authentic.com Method (5-week program) and one-on-one work.


Questions and Answers

1) What is the focus of this episode?

Answer: The focus of this episode is on highly sensitive people and how their sensitivity can be used to identify potential health hazards or emotional triggers that may not be apparent to others.

2) What is the speaker’s background?

Answer: The speaker comes from a background of functional nutrition but works similarly to naturopaths or functional medical doctors, minus prescribing.

3) What is the speaker’s focus?

Answer: The speaker’s focus is on natural sensitivity, which is innate, and identifying what things are not part of natural sensitivity.

4) What are some of the speaker’s tools for helping clients?

Answer: The speaker has a lot of tools at their disposal, including labs and testing, to help clients find their authentic lifestyle, which can improve health and reduce disease by responding to the body’s messages.

5) What is the speaker’s podcast called, and where can it be found?

Answer: The speaker’s podcast is called authentic.com and is available on Apple and other platforms.6) What is the purpose of the speaker’s program called the authentic.com Method?

6) What is the purpose of the speaker’s program called the authentic.com Method?

Answer: The purpose of the speaker’s program called the authentic.com Method is to empower individuals to connect with their bodies and create their own rhythms. The program includes a library of safe remedies, tools, therapies, tonics, and modalities.

7) What is the overlap between labels such as introverts, empaths, and highly sensitive people?

Answer: While there can be overlap between these labels, they are all distinct characteristics. Highly sensitive people are more prone to sensory processing sensitivity, while empaths have a natural ability to sense others’ emotions, and introverts tend to be more introspective and reflective. However, individuals can identify with one or more of these labels.

8) How can understanding terms such as introvert, sensitive, and empath lead to deeper conversations and meaning-making?

Answer: Understanding these terms can help people better understand themselves and others, allowing for deeper conversations and connection. It can also lead to a greater understanding of the importance of balance in society, with both introverts and extroverts having value.


Podcast Transcript

00;00;00;00 – 00;00;22;08
Jessi Michel Agadoni
We’re here for the deep we are. And therefore, one of the hardest things for us is to feel misunderstood, because that keeps us at the shallow. And so if someone really gets us, then we feel like it’s worth while, right? And so I, I find that that’s where using terms and then defining the terms, that’s the second piece.

00;00;22;12 – 00;00;49;27
Jessi Michel Agadoni
So people understand what it is like. I’m constantly educating on what an introvert is or educating what a sensitive is, or educating on an what an empath is. I don’t just throw it out there because everyone has their own definition, but it allows us to go deep and to have conversations around it and to make meaning of things. But that’s what we’re here for.

00;00;51;11 – 00;01;13;04
David Hall
Hello and welcome to episode 112 of the Quiet and Strong Podcast, especially for introverts. I’m your host, David Hall, and the creator of quiet and strong.com. It’s a weekly podcast dedicated to understanding the strengths and needs of introverts. Introversion is not something to fix, but to be embraced normally. We air each episode on a Monday, be sure to subscribe on your favorite platform

00;01;13;10 – 00;01;40;18
David Hall
Leave a review. That would mean a lot to me. Tell a friend about the podcast and help get the word out there that introversion is a beautiful thing. Jessie Michelle Agadoni is a sensitive health guide. Her purpose is to help introverts, empaths and natural sensitives cultivate success without succumbing to constant, overwhelmed anxiety, depression, autoimmunity, or any other body imbalance that could prevent them from having the impact they are called to have on this world.

00;01;41;12 – 00;02;03;19
David Hall
Her practice, MêrfleurWellness, and unique, authentic, calm method teach natural sensitives how to rebuild their calm and resiliency to create sustainable health. She deeply believes that if all tender spirits live in alignment, the world will be a much more beautiful and peaceful place. All right. Well, I’m excited to welcome my guest, Jessie. Jessie, welcome to the Quiet and Strong podcast.

00;02;04;10 – 00;02;06;24
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Thank you for having me. I’m so excited to be here.

00;02;07;14 – 00;02;21;13
David Hall
All right. Well, we’re going to get into the great work that you do. But first, you know, I’d like to hear about you and how you came to understand that you were an introvert, a highly sensitive person and also empath, and how you embraced all of that.

00;02;22;08 – 00;02;49;15
Jessi Michel Agadoni
The big story. Yeah. Yes. So I always knew I was different from a very young age. My parents, you know, communicated back to me. They gave me feedback both consciously and subconsciously, that I was different, that I saw the world and experienced it in a way that didn’t match theirs. And so I didn’t have labels for that. I didn’t have a term for that.

00;02;49;15 – 00;03;12;11
Jessi Michel Agadoni
I just knew that I wasn’t the same. And so I learned early on to Chameleon and to just become what everyone else told me I should be. And I lived the way that others lived because I didn’t trust what my body told me, because it was apparently wrong or too emotional or too dramatic or I was too sensitive.

00;03;12;11 – 00;03;40;19
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Right? And back then, that term was used with a negative undertone. It wasn’t a positive label to receive. So I knew that I was sensitive. But again, not in like the way that I understand it today. As I got older, I thought I was an extrovert. And my my family is very extroverted. So they really encouraged that. And I grew up in a culture.

00;03;40;19 – 00;04;02;19
Jessi Michel Agadoni
I grew up doing theater, like all the things that you would expect an extrovert to do, but I would just get so tired of it, like so exhausted. And I just remember asking myself, especially in high school, how do these people keep going? Like, how are they constantly like. Even just, you know, I hang out with friends and then they want to get together again the very next day.

00;04;02;19 – 00;04;17;05
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And I was like, How are they doing this? What’s wrong with me? And so I started kind of I always had that narrative in the back me of like, something’s wrong with me. I don’t know what it is, you know? And I just felt exhausted all the time. By the time I reached college, I was so burnt out.

00;04;17;19 – 00;04;42;13
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Like, from a physical health standpoint, my adrenals were just totally had lacked capacity. My hormones were a wreck. I was just had nothing to give. I was so drained. And as a result, my body started showing all these symptoms and all these diagnoses started getting thrown on me. But I still didn’t really understand. I just thought it was, Oh, I know now I know that I’m sick.

00;04;42;13 – 00;05;07;10
Jessi Michel Agadoni
So that’s why I’m so tired. Right? And then Q my husband, he we met and he is 100% an introvert, comes from a family of introverts that no, it claim it, love it, honor it. And so he grew up in a very different lifestyle. And at first, to be honest, because of the way that I had been raised, I sort of like picked on him for it.

00;05;07;10 – 00;05;22;20
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Like it was, you know, sometimes when something’s triggering to you and you need to see it, you almost get defensive. Well, that’s what happened. I got very defensive and I was like, We need to socialize more and get out. Why? And he was like, No, I don’t want to. That makes me tired. And I was like, What? You can do that.

00;05;22;20 – 00;05;45;12
Jessi Michel Agadoni
You can just say no. And so, you know, I loved him and we connected off the bat and we’re just the best of friends. And so when we did get married and we built a life together and like a social life together, I would get so frustrated with him and like the first six months of our marriage because he just like, what it go out, you know, you just want to stay home all the time and he didn’t understand.

00;05;45;12 – 00;06;07;08
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And then one day I just said, fine. And I just embraced it. And then I realized, Oh, this is heaven. This is the best thing I’ve ever experienced. Like, this is amazing. I can say no. And I feel I felt so much energy return, even though I still had all these health problems. I had a lot of energy return.

00;06;07;08 – 00;06;43;13
Jessi Michel Agadoni
I had a lot of brain clarity come forward. I felt better, even without seeing like making any other shifts. And so I started to realize, oh, maybe I’m an introvert. How odd. And then I don’t remember where David, but I somehow learned the real what I would call the real definition of an introvert, because I just like most people, assumed being an introvert meant that you hated people, meant that you were just kind of a hermit and like a, quote unquote loser or a loner or whatever.

00;06;43;26 – 00;07;14;07
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And that’s not what an introvert is at all, which obviously, you know, that. So to find out that the difference between extroversion and introversion had to do with capacity, had to do with energy and how you’re filled up and how you are rejuvenated. I was like, Oh, well, if that’s all that it is, and I’m 100% an introvert, like no question, because for me, I appear as an extrovert because when I’m around people, I do love it.

00;07;14;08 – 00;07;38;21
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Like, I, I live off relationships. Like, I love talking to people. I have no problem being in social settings, but I am so drained afterwards. Like, I will go and I’ll be the life of the party. But then I’ll get home and you won’t see me for a month. Like you won’t see me for four weeks because I’m so tired and so exhausted that I’ll have to rejuvenate, you know?

00;07;38;22 – 00;08;03;24
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And maybe that’s an extreme example, but it’s not far off. I and I live most of my life like I work alone in my house all day and I love it. Like I love being alone so much. And I used to be afraid to say that, but now I’m not. I just am like. And anytime anyone asks me, they’re like, Oh, don’t you like when I have kids or want to have friends over like occasionally.

00;08;04;03 – 00;08;23;29
Jessi Michel Agadoni
But most of the time I just love being alone. It’s so I feel so good. I feel so full. And I love meeting and engaging with people when my cup is full. I don’t like meeting with people when I have nothing to give. And that’s really what happens for me. So I really learned about introversion through my husband.

00;08;24;00 – 00;08;45;01
Jessi Michel Agadoni
I like praise God for him because I would never embraced that. And he showed me that it was a healthy, very viable lifestyle, you know, and obviously there’s so many things rolled into that. I was massively codependent and all those other things as well that kind of created who I was at the time. And so there’s a lot of healing that happened out of embracing my introversion.

00;08;46;00 – 00;09;11;10
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And then as far as like recognizing being an empath and being what’s known as a highly sensitive person or what I call a natural sensitive, those things came a little bit later. So for me, I found out about Dr. Lane Aaron’s term of highly sensitive person through her book, and that was when I really hit rock, rock, rock bottom.

00;09;12;09 – 00;09;41;26
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And that was in 2016. I really I was working at a digital marketing agency and doing the whole open concept office. Really high, intense work. Really an introverts nightmare. Yeah, I hadn’t fully learned. Apparently. And I just crashed and burned after eight months. Like, I just. I ate it hard and I took I ended up taking basically a year off from like my scheduled typical work.

00;09;42;05 – 00;10;03;16
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And in that timeframe I came across her work and it just shifted my whole life when I started to realize, Oh, I’m not just an introvert, there’s this whole other piece of me as well. I have this sensory processing sensitivity trait that means that I receive, you know, 20 pieces of information when I walk into a room, as opposed to ten pieces of information that everyone else needs.

00;10;03;16 – 00;10;30;29
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Like I’m processing so much more and that’s that plus my introversion and that may even be contributing to my introversion, right? So that really has been a big wake up call for me and I’ve lived my life according to honoring that going forward and my health has seen huge rebounds because of it. And then as far as empathy, I kind of define empathy a little bit differently than I think a lot of people do.

00;10;30;29 – 00;10;49;08
Jessi Michel Agadoni
I see an empath as someone that is born with the natural gifting of empathy, meaning that it’s just subconscious. It’s not something they even have to really try out. And in fact, they usually have to learn how to have boundaries with it, how to rein it in. And then I think there is the skill of empathy that anyone can learn.

00;10;49;08 – 00;11;09;00
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And I think every human should have that skill. And some of us are better at developing it than others. For some, it’s easier than others. It’s a spectrum, right? But an impact to someone that will never not have it. Whereas someone that just has the gift of empathy, they can fully not turn it on. Like they just they they literally have to like, flip a switch to bring it into their life.

00;11;09;00 – 00;11;13;03
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And it’s a choice versus, like, innate trait. Does that make sense?

00;11;13;25 – 00;11;34;06
David Hall
Yeah. Yeah. And I think I think there are some ways that it manifests for you or other empaths differently. You know, when we are talking before, it’s like I’m a very analytical person. And so my empathy is going to come from more of a thinking space and where, you know, I’m not going to have the same gift of feeling it like you are.

00;11;34;06 – 00;11;44;09
David Hall
And I don’t know why. We each have different gifts, but I can have empathy. But it’s going to look and feel differently than you do. But that doesn’t mean I don’t care. I care deeply. It’s just going to manifest itself different.

00;11;44;24 – 00;12;06;27
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And that’s such a good addition, because I would still say, David, that you can be an empath and not necessarily be able to feel puts yourself in everyone’s heart, but you can put yourself in everyone’s mind, right? Because that’s really what an empathy and even the skill of empathy is, is the ability to put yourself in someone else’s shoes.

00;12;07;05 – 00;12;31;27
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And we all are able to do it in specific ways a little bit more strongly. Like for me, I don’t know if you’re familiar with human design at all, but that’s like a whole nother conversation. But it is a way to kind of know where you’re naturally more gifted at empathy. And for me, I’m really good, actually, at knowing the body so I can put myself into someone else’s physical body and know how something feels like.

00;12;32;06 – 00;12;51;09
Jessi Michel Agadoni
So for example, me watching a movie where someone gets stabbed is like horrifying for me because I literally experience that. Whereas like for you, you know, you know how people think. And so, you know, if someone’s ruminating and have these thoughts in their mind, like you have so much empathy for that because you get it and you can literally experience that.

00;12;52;18 – 00;13;10;21
Jessi Michel Agadoni
So it’s I think, you know, it’s something, again, that can be innate or developed either way. It’s always expressed uniquely because we’re also different. Right. Even if we have these labels of introvert, naturally sensitive, highly sensitive, and it doesn’t mean that we’re the same. There’s so many layers to who we are as people, right?

00;13;11;09 – 00;13;29;00
David Hall
Yeah, that’s for sure. And that’s what I always say, too. It’s helpful to describe these labels because we can learn from each other, but at the end of the day, nobody is exactly the same. We’re pretty complex people, you know, there’s lots of nuances, but it’s helpful to describe, but it’s not to box in. It’s just to help you understand exactly.

00;13;29;00 – 00;13;34;13
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Because then you can expand beyond it. But it’s so helpful to have language to communicate.

00;13;34;28 – 00;13;55;17
David Hall
Yeah. So thanks so much for sharing your story. And you know, introverts are deep thinkers or deep feelers, and that’s where we need some of the recharge or time alone to do things like that’s where the open office plan doesn’t work because we’re deep thinkers and we need that time to focus and do our best work. I’m also really happy that you know your husband kind of helped you.

00;13;56;11 – 00;14;01;08
David Hall
We talked before. Tell me what you told me, that he’s not draining to you. Tell us about that.

00;14;01;09 – 00;14;21;09
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Oh, yeah. Here he is. Not which I would say he’s I think he’s the only person, David, like in this world, which is why I was like, he’s my soul mate, is I. I can be alone with him in my house. And I don’t I don’t feel like his presence doesn’t pull from me. We can be in the same room.

00;14;21;09 – 00;14;42;01
Jessi Michel Agadoni
We can be doing so side by side and not have to engage, right? Which I think is very common among introverts. We can just kind of move through our lives without having to constantly be talking and things like that. But even still, just sometimes there’s certain people that I mean, bless them, but they can just be sitting and I’m like, Oh my gosh.

00;14;42;01 – 00;15;04;22
Jessi Michel Agadoni
I’m like, I’m so stressed out having you here because I can feel my energy getting pulled towards you. And I think it has a lot to do though, with someone being really comfortable with who they are like. He’s very confident. He’s very grounded. We were comparing our partners, you know, like he just knows who he is and he has no problem just being that.

00;15;04;22 – 00;15;33;00
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And I think for me, as someone that comes from a history of codependency and enmeshment and all these things, to be around someone that doesn’t need me in that way doesn’t require me to be whole. It allows me a lot of freedom. It allows me to truly just rest because I don’t have to care. Take And I think, you know, especially if you’re an introvert that has is would identify with being an impact or has really high strength with empathy.

00;15;33;00 – 00;15;54;20
Jessi Michel Agadoni
We constantly feel like we have to carry the lives of others. We constantly are pulled in. If we’re not setting up boundaries, it’s almost more effort to set up boundaries then to just like let everything emerge. Right? That’s a term I use a lot. I can, if I’m not actively establishing boundaries with people that are draining, I just merge with them.

00;15;54;20 – 00;16;14;09
Jessi Michel Agadoni
It just happens. So it is an active choice and that takes effort. That takes a lot of time, that takes a lot of energy. And so when I’m around people that I have to really hold that boundary, I am so drained. But with my husband, I don’t I don’t have to do that. And it’s just so beautiful. It’s really, really refreshing.

00;16;15;17 – 00;16;17;19
David Hall
Was he always confident as an introvert?

00;16;18;19 – 00;16;19;22
Jessi Michel Agadoni
He would say no.

00;16;20;08 – 00;16;22;14
David Hall
And he had to kind of embrace it, too.

00;16;22;26 – 00;16;45;07
Jessi Michel Agadoni
He did? Yeah, he did. And not that this and we’ve talked about this. These are two different things. He was a shy introvert. Right. So he developed shyness. And that was because I think he was made fun of for being an introvert. He was bullied a lot in in school and had some pretty intense experiences. So he had to overcome those.

00;16;45;07 – 00;17;03;10
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And I would say he’s still overcoming that like we all are. But he because he grew up in a family of two parents that were introverts and knew it and lived accordingly, he grew up in a safe space where it was normal to take a nap. It was normal to not be doing 20 million activities in a day.

00;17;03;10 – 00;17;29;21
Jessi Michel Agadoni
It was normal to rest on vacation. It was normal to just not have to constantly be engaging with people. Where’s my family? It was like we never it was never quiet. There’s always music playing. There’s always someone at the house. You’re always going to another activity, you know, there’s just constant activity. And I had parents that didn’t know how to sit still, didn’t know how to be alone with themselves, where his parents, like, thrive on that.

00;17;30;02 – 00;17;51;18
Jessi Michel Agadoni
So I think that really helped establish him, even though there were still things and he would say even now, there’s still things that he’s embracing and appreciating about his introversion. He had that solid base. I think that really shows relate to case studies. You know the difference you know how had childhood really shapes you.

00;17;52;04 – 00;18;11;15
David Hall
Yeah, and introversion isn’t shyness. But I think in his case and I know this was the case for me, it caused me to be shy because I didn’t understand it. And as soon as I understood, Oh, I’m a deep thinker, I’m going to need time to think. I might pause in conversations. I might need time to be alone.

00;18;11;28 – 00;18;30;25
David Hall
This is all good. I might have some crazy, deep thoughts that no one else has ever thought of before, and that’s all great. And so once I understood that, then my shyness went away and I’m not shy, you know? And that helped me gain confidence. And, you know, like with my wife, she’s a fellow introvert and she’s just always been confident.

00;18;31;02 – 00;18;45;20
David Hall
But that’s good for me to see that we’re not all going through that journey where we felt like something was wrong. Of course, anybody that is, there’s nothing wrong with you. And that’s why we do this show. That’s why we have great people like Jessi. There’s nothing wrong with you. Just need to get to know yourself. And that’s a great thing.

00;18;46;08 – 00;19;06;05
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And yeah, and it’s funny too, because out of the two of us, you know, he grew up in an introverted family and he developed shyness where I didn’t and I, I’m very social and most people would label me as an extrovert if they just met me. But it’s all deceiving because at the core, you know, we’re the same.

00;19;06;25 – 00;19;14;25
David Hall
Yeah. They don’t see what’s going on inside. You don’t see someone’s preferences. You don’t see someone’s deep thoughts, deep emotions. You don’t you don’t see all of that.

00;19;15;10 – 00;19;16;20
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Yeah. Yeah.

00;19;17;07 – 00;19;34;11
David Hall
So being sensitive, you like to say naturally sensitive, right? Yeah. Or being an empath, those could be for an introvert or extrovert maybe. Talk a little bit about the overlap. I think more likely for an introvert than not. But extroverts can definitely be empaths sensitive as well, right?

00;19;34;29 – 00;20;01;17
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Absolutely. Yes. I mean, I work with sensitive, so I get to see the gamut. I you know, I feel like I get to I have a very privileged position where I really get to get to know and work intimately with a lot of sensitives. And so oftentimes, I will say most natural sensitives are introverted and empaths, but it’s not always the case.

00;20;01;17 – 00;20;21;12
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And I would say like empathy is a big thing right now. A lot of people are, you know, ascribing to the term empath, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re going to be introverted or sensitive. Like those are two very different things. And again, you can have deep empathy and not be an empath, right? So there’s there’s all these little nuances.

00;20;21;12 – 00;20;46;10
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And again, these are my roles like I’m I’m definitely making my own roles here. And some of them, others would agree with me and maybe not. It doesn’t matter, you know, but it’s all language at the end of the day. But I think as far as like what really matters is knowing who you are. And then if you feel like a label matches that and will help you communicate it, that’s where it becomes helpful and important.

00;20;46;24 – 00;21;24;20
Jessi Michel Agadoni
So I actually have a decent amount of clients that are introverts, but they swear on their lives that they’re extroverts and it comes down to this myth that introverts are not people, people which is the biggest lie ever. I find that introverts are the most deep, profound, meaningful Relator’s and it’s just all about quantity, you know? And so I think there is almost hesitation because, you know, 50% of the population are introverts.

00;21;24;20 – 00;22;07;29
Jessi Michel Agadoni
So it’s very likely that every other person you meet is a fellow introvert. So I do see a lot of clients that hesitate. They’ll embrace a sensitivity label, though, embrace the Empath label, but they really hesitate on the introvert label because of kind of the cultural negativity around that term. But again, everyone’s different. For me, it was harder to embrace the sensitivity label because I grew up in an environment that really saw that as weakness, really saw that as being less than so an introversion, you know, it wasn’t encouraged either, but it was a whole different experience there.

00;22;07;29 – 00;22;17;07
Jessi Michel Agadoni
So but there is, there’s overlap, but they are all different. And so you can have one and not have any of the others. And I think it’s helpful to know that.

00;22;18;00 – 00;22;41;24
David Hall
Yeah. And on the introversion, you spend more time focusing inwardly than not, you know. Yes, there’s some telltale signs for you if we’re talking. And sometimes you need to pause and think about something that’s probably you’re an introvert. Extroverts tend to speak in order to think that something you said you like talking with everybody. But when we were talking before, I ask you about that and I said, well, you like small talk.

00;22;41;24 – 00;22;42;14
David Hall
And you said, No.

00;22;42;23 – 00;22;43;19
Jessi Michel Agadoni
I hate small talk.

00;22;43;22 – 00;22;52;20
David Hall
You want to get right into the deep stuff, just like I do. And, you know, conversations like this that we’re passionate about, we love talking about, but we may not like other small topics.

00;22;53;05 – 00;23;19;09
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Actually. Good differentiation. Yeah. And that’s I think that’s where I really when we start to get into the nuances of it, you know, I, I’m the person that comes to the party and within 2 minutes of talking to me, we’re talking about something you’ve never told anyone before. Oh, you’re walking away like learning new information. Usually we’re talking about your deepest fears or something that’s super meaningful to you.

00;23;19;09 – 00;23;46;06
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Like I when I have conversations, they’re never shallow and that some people love that. Some people don’t. And my fellow introverts love it. And even my extroverted friends that are open and willing to learn and and appreciate the gifting of the introvert to bring them into the deep. Because I do I do have extroverted friends that they value that because they have a hard time going there.

00;23;46;06 – 00;24;10;02
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And they’ll tell me sometimes, Jess, I don’t I’m not because it’s exhausting for them to go deep, whereas for us introverts it’s actually energizing. Like after this, this conversation, I’m going to be pumped up and energized. Whereas if I had to go to a party and talk small talk, I’d be so exhausted. But for the extrovert, it’s different for them going and doing the shallow talk, being like, you know, how is your kid?

00;24;10;02 – 00;24;25;08
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Blah, blah, blah. They love that. That gives them energy. But having to sit down with Jessie and share the deep part of their soul that drains them and they’re like, I’ll see you in a month. Like, you’re just a lot, you know, which is not bad, but it’s just different.

00;24;25;25 – 00;24;47;22
David Hall
I love that you said that because I was thinking the exact same thing. I don’t like the simple definition that when people say, Oh, introverts are drained by people, I hate that because it’s not true. We can get quite energized by the right conversation. So I always say we can be drained by certain situations and certain people, but but the right conversation can be quite energizing.

00;24;47;22 – 00;24;53;11
David Hall
And that’s something that’s really important to remember. It just depends. And I think we definitely generalize too much.

00;24;53;29 – 00;25;16;04
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Yeah. And that’s that’s human nature, right. We all were trying to find similarities because ultimately we all want to connect. We all want to feel loved and accepted. And so we’re trying to put ourselves out there so people can get to know us, especially as introverts. We want to be known at the depths of the depths, you know, where we’re here for the deep we are.

00;25;16;04 – 00;25;44;11
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And therefore, one of the hardest things for us is to feel misunderstood, because that keeps us at the shallow end. So if someone really gets us, then we feel like it’s worthwhile, right? And so I, I find that that’s where using terms and then defining the terms, that’s the second piece. So people understand what it is like. I’m constantly educating on what an introvert is or educating on a sensitive is or educating on one empathize.

00;25;44;17 – 00;26;05;17
Jessi Michel Agadoni
I don’t just throw it out there because everyone has their own definition, but it allows us to go deep and to have conversations around it and to make meaning of things. But that’s what we’re here for. Like introversion is a gifting, right? And so like, we are here to bring the deep everywhere we go, whether people like it or not.

00;26;06;00 – 00;26;24;19
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And it’s the balance of society. If we were all enjoying the more playful, more energetic things in life, not that we don’t enjoy that too, but if that’s all we were, we’d have a lot of problems as humans, but vice versa. If we were always in the deep, we would never play. We would never lighten up and float.

00;26;24;19 – 00;26;47;25
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And so we really need both. And I think that’s true. Even as introverts, sometimes we can be like, Oh, those extroverts, bah bah bah bah bah. You La-La, there’s those shallow, but they’re really just beautiful light souls, you know that. Thank goodness for them because they often are the ones that have to do really hard things that we as deep introverts just aren’t aren’t here to do, you know?

00;26;47;26 – 00;27;05;23
Jessi Michel Agadoni
So we really need both. It’s it’s important to have both. And I think whether you’re an extrovert or an introvert, you need to learn to respect the other, right? It’s everyone has value regardless of of your gifting, regardless of your traits. Like we’re all needed. We’re all just pieces in that big puzzle of life.

00;27;06;05 – 00;27;18;26
David Hall
I love how you’re saying this. Let’s get more specific. Like what is what is a gift that you feel like you have because of that you’re introvert or sensitive or an empath? What’s a gift or to that? Or even something that you’ve seen in somebody else?

00;27;19;25 – 00;27;25;26
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Yeah, I’m trying to think of something I haven’t said yet.

00;27;25;26 – 00;27;27;23
David Hall
That’s part of this whole conversation is.

00;27;27;23 – 00;27;28;14
Jessi Michel Agadoni
I know, you.

00;27;28;14 – 00;27;37;08
David Hall
Know, it’s it’s what here’s what we need, but here’s, here’s why we need it. Because we’re able to have these gifts that we bring that you just so beautifully said right now.

00;27;37;18 – 00;28;04;01
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Yeah, I feel like and this one falls a little bit more into the sensitivity camp, but I would say it applies to probably all of the labels. And that would be I feel like we’re here to be the canary in the coal mine. And another term I would use is to be the scout that we’re here to enter into environments and to pick up a lot more information than the average individual.

00;28;04;01 – 00;28;35;15
Jessi Michel Agadoni
If you’re if you have the sensory processing sensitivity trait like you are a natural, sensitive, highly sensitive person, you will physically gather more information from all experiences. And that is a gifting. But it’s not here to just overwhelm you. It’s here to inform the rest of humankind because you are here to be that scout, to call out, you know, I work in the health world, so for me, I can walk into a room and tell you if there’s mold like instantaneously.

00;28;36;02 – 00;28;53;22
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And that is because that’s I’m just very sensitive. That’s one of the things I can pick up on, whereas everyone else in the room thinks they’re fine, no problem. But that mold is impacting every single person in that room, whether they’re aware of it or not. But because I’m in the room, I can say, Hey, guys, this is in a safe environment.

00;28;53;22 – 00;29;17;00
Jessi Michel Agadoni
We need an air filter in here. We need to leave, like and that is a benefit to everyone in that room, right? That’s a health example. There’s so many other examples, you know, of even emotionally, you know, like, like we were talking about our different empathic gifting. Like I’m really good at sensing people’s fears and being able to really know them and even to the physical body level.

00;29;17;00 – 00;29;41;10
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And so I can sense that for someone and say we need to not watch this movie or we need to go somewhere else or we need to change the subject. Because I can sense better than they can what’s happening in their body. I can sense them going into fight and flight, and I can also feel it physically. My body’s responding as well because I’m being an empath.

00;29;41;25 – 00;30;12;19
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And so I can say, Hey, let’s change the subject. This seems like something that’s putting you to a state of alarm and they have no concept of that because that’s not their gifting. But I am saving their body. I’m helping them move out of that. And of course there’s so many other examples I could give, but our ability to pick up information and then specifically as an inch for our ability to process at a really deep level, is for that reason so that we can turn around and serve.

00;30;12;28 – 00;30;35;24
Jessi Michel Agadoni
It’s not just for us to hoard, right? It’s not just for us to live in fear or for us to feel overwhelmed like that is often the case if we’re not using in a healthful manner, we haven’t built healthy boundaries or healed our body of what I call developed sensitivities. And we’re loaded. We’re overloaded, we’re drowning. Basically, if we’re drowning, then we can’t turn around and help.

00;30;36;07 – 00;30;58;14
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And so I think it’s important that we recognize that we do have a duty to heal ourselves so that we can be the gift that we’re meant to be in this lifetime. We can’t have the impact that we were created to have if we’re drowning in our own overwhelm, fear, health issues, whatever it is that you’re facing. And we all have our own journeys to move through.

00;30;58;14 – 00;31;19;29
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Right? So and I could explain that further if you’d like, but I call that develop sensitivity and develop sensitivities are trauma, any sort of health imbalance, all those kinds of things that come in and shift and change who we are that take away from our authenticity, don’t allow us to be who we were created to be, because that makes sense.

00;31;19;29 – 00;31;20;24
David Hall
Yeah, absolutely.

00;31;21;12 – 00;31;45;00
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Yeah. So I feel like we are here to have such a huge role, especially in this lifetime, especially in this modern time. There is a shift right now, I think since kind of the pandemic, COVID 19, there’s been an awakening of introverts, people that got to stay home. They’re like, Oh, this is life giving, having a quieter schedule.

00;31;45;10 – 00;32;07;15
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Actually, I feel healthier. I’m a better mom, I’m a better partner, I’m working better. Like this is really good for me. Working from home is so wonderful. And there’s just this awakening of, Oh, maybe I need more of this. Whether they are willing to ascribe to the label of introvert or not, they’re embracing an introverted lifestyle. Right. And saying, I’m actually going to clear house and do less.

00;32;07;15 – 00;32;30;26
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And I feel more revived by that. Having more alone time, having more quiet downtime, having the ability to let my mind actually process the information it’s receiving. So it’s not just overwhelmed all the time because I think of our brains, like libraries, like we’re taking in all this information, but then we need to like file it, stamp it, put it in the right section, you know, like label it, all of that.

00;32;31;01 – 00;32;56;04
Jessi Michel Agadoni
If we don’t do that, that’s what leads to overwhelm. Actually had a researcher a sensitive researcher on my podcast and we had a long discussion about how there’s a lot of research on specifically sensitives, but I would see this in introverts as well, that if we don’t take the time to do that filing process I just described, with all the information we have, that is what leads to massive overwhelm.

00;32;56;04 – 00;33;24;11
Jessi Michel Agadoni
That is what leads to us feeling like we’re drowning and not being able to share our gifting of depth, our gifting of being that call out, that canary, that scout. So and I know it also takes a lot of courage and a lot of confidence to verbalize, because it will often be you expressing what’s you need when really it’s benefiting everyone, even though they can’t see it or feel it.

00;33;24;11 – 00;33;54;15
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Right, because we kind of sometimes see it like a 4D level. And extroverts are those, especially those that aren’t sensitive or not on the high sensitivity spectrum, they don’t see it. So they think you’re lying or making it up because like if I don’t see it, then either I’m blind or you’re crazy, like, right. You know, we’re just like, no, it’s neither, you know, it’s just I have a gifting that allows me to see more information, allows me to pick up on more, allows me to process more.

00;33;55;02 – 00;34;07;22
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And it doesn’t make me better than you. You have other gift things that I don’t have, but you need to believe me in this because I have this gifting in order to save you, to serve you, to bless you. So let me do that. Right.

00;34;08;22 – 00;34;32;06
David Hall
And that’s that’s a big piece of this is there’s not good or bad. They just we need them. All right. And it is frustrating when someone doesn’t understand the gifts that you have. And, you know, that’s why we’re having this conversation. It’s like, let’s help each other all recognize each other’s gifts. I’m pretty an intuitive person, and so I might just be able to pick up on things too, that other people may not see.

00;34;32;06 – 00;34;45;09
David Hall
And if they don’t see it, then they, you know, they might think I’m crazy and like, no, I just I’m able to put pieces together pretty easily. So, you know, I figured this out without somebody telling me kind of thing.

00;34;46;12 – 00;35;12;12
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And that’s something if I can share this little nugget. I talk about this often with clients, and I was actually just talking about this with my sister yesterday. The hardest part about being someone that is intuitive, someone that can see that 4D-5D can read someone, is that often you’re going to see something that the person in front of you is not aware of yet.

00;35;12;23 – 00;35;35;20
Jessi Michel Agadoni
They can’t see it. They don’t even know they’re going through it. And so what I’ve had to learn as I’ve grown up is that just because I see something doesn’t always mean I should say it. Because what is objectively obvious to me is not objectively obvious to the person in front of me, unless they’re like a definite obvious fellow.

00;35;35;20 – 00;35;54;22
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Sensitive. Then I’ll just like I’ll see if I know them well. I’ll just speak freely. But usually I always ask permission. I always say, Hey, I’m picking up on something. But it be okay if I shared with you something I’m noticing about you? I kind of have. I have this gifting to be able to read into people. You may not be conscious of this.

00;35;54;22 – 00;36;14;28
Jessi Michel Agadoni
This might be a subconscious thing. Would you be okay if I’ve shared about this? Because especially for me as I pick up on body and emotion and for you like thoughts, people aren’t always conscious of what’s happening. And so if you just drop a bomb on them and say in a really obvious fashion, like, well, of course you’re feeling this right now, but low level, I’m like a hold up.

00;36;14;28 – 00;36;38;13
Jessi Michel Agadoni
What is it? How dare you label me like that? Like, I’m not feeling that. And to you you’re like, oh, your entire body is saying that’s is scream ing. That’s me right now. Every nonverbal, every tone, every bit of the tone you’re using, all of the word choice, like the energy you’re giving off. I know that like without a doubt they’re in this certain state, but they haven’t consciously become aware of it.

00;36;38;13 – 00;37;11;10
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And so it can be very disruptive and triggering for people where they get very defensive. And so I’ve learned that it’s so important to remember that this gifting is a responsibility. And once you have that confidence to share, to be wary of oversharing and to learn when the timing is right and when someone is ready to receive and experience that gift, because it’s not always a blessing to people if they’re not ready.

00;37;11;23 – 00;37;23;12
Jessi Michel Agadoni
So there’s that element, too, of the other side of the spectrum. There’s their being shy and drowning, and then there’s the other side where it’s like, I have so much wisdom to offer you, but you’re not ready for it yet, right?

00;37;23;20 – 00;37;30;08
David Hall
Right, right. So you started to talk about the work that you did. Tell us about that. Yeah. What is the work that you do?

00;37;31;00 – 00;37;56;27
Jessi Michel Agadoni
I am a natural, sensitive health guide. So what that means in more practical terms is I help sensitives heal their bodies. I come from a background of functional nutrition and so I and have expanded upon that in many ways, but very similar. If any of your listeners are familiar with naturopath or functional medical doctors, integrative doctors, I do all of that minus the prescribing.

00;37;56;27 – 00;38;28;29
Jessi Michel Agadoni
So I really help people identify the developed sensitivities that they have. I work specifically with sensitives and so we identify what are the things that have come into your life that are not a part of your natural sensitivity, right? Because when you have sensory processing sensitivity, you have this foundation of sensitivity that will always be there. But then as you come into life, just like any human, we all have developed sensitivities, we experienced trauma of different shades.

00;38;29;03 – 00;38;53;09
Jessi Michel Agadoni
You know, we have light and heavy trauma, little T big T trauma. We have also, you know, I work in the health world, so I developed the term natural sensitivity because the term sensitivity is used so often to describe an imbalance and something you need to clear and get rid of. Whereas HSP, highly sensitive person, the trait of sensory processing sensitivity is natural, it’s innate.

00;38;53;09 – 00;39;11;27
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And so I call it that, I call it natural sensitivity and then anything else is develop sensitivity that we do want to clear. So that’s what I do in my practice is I help people identify what their develop sensitivities are, whether it’s, you know, a food sensitivity, a chemical sensitivity. And then really we look at how it’s manifested.

00;39;11;27 – 00;39;37;09
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Is it into an autoimmune condition? Is it, you know, prolonged depression and anxiety? Is it ADHD? I do a lot of neurotransmitter work, so I work with brain a ton and we do so with that also comes a lot of just like emotional awareness and healing. And I love working with clients on a really individual basis. So I have a lot of different tools I use to make sure that we’re matching their authenticity.

00;39;37;29 – 00;40;01;24
Jessi Michel Agadoni
I’m not a believer in having a protocol or approach. They just slap on every single person. So very much based on data. I love labs, I’m a little nerd, but I also am very intuitive. So It’s kind of a beautiful marriage of the two, and that’s really where my gifting is. My sweet spot of gifting is being able to read people’s bodies, but also have the lab work to back it up.

00;40;02;03 – 00;40;23;23
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And that’s my favorite is when it’s like, Look what I said, it’s there because there’s something. So especially for introverts, data is big and being able to see something objective and like sit with it and marinade it with it, it’s really, really helpful. I found and I love doing testing and retesting, so we get to see the work we do together.

00;40;24;14 – 00;40;48;21
Jessi Michel Agadoni
A lot of work I do with diet supplementation. I do really deep work too. So it’s not just like changing a diet, but finding how you uniquely are meant to digest your food, for example. And that’s not always through like a trendy diet, but also how you’re here to sleep, how you’re here to move through life. What is your ideal lifestyle for you uniquely like?

00;40;48;21 – 00;41;12;18
Jessi Michel Agadoni
What is David’s unique authentic lifestyle? Because if you live that way, a lot of your health problems will just fade away because they’re simply messages from your body saying This is inauthentic, this is not right for you. And so a lot of the things that we label as disease are really just the delayed or the the ignoring of messages for years.

00;41;13;00 – 00;41;33;15
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And so we start to respond to those messages and rebuild a life so that it matches how you’re meant to live, how you were literally created and wired to live. Those things start to fade and health just comes forward naturally, easily. And then sustainable health is not even a question. It’s not, Oh, I have to do this hard diet, you know, for the rest of my life.

00;41;33;15 – 00;41;56;24
Jessi Michel Agadoni
It’s no, I just this feels good. This feels easy. This is what I was meant to do. And so I always say I’m simply inviting people to live differently and to live authentically, because oftentimes as sensitives, we have to live differently in this world because it’s not really wired for us, at least in America, where we live, especially me, I’m in Southern California.

00;41;56;24 – 00;42;10;19
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Like this is extrovert capital. This is like I’m just hours away from L.A. Like, it’s it’s intense here. So we really do have to live differently and live authentically to how we’re wired, not how our culture has told us to live.

00;42;11;27 – 00;42;23;29
David Hall
Yeah. So how do you help people? So definitely you’ve been talking about the nutritional aspect of it, but also just coming to know your true nature and being in alignment with that. How does that contribute to your health and well-being?

00;42;24;16 – 00;42;53;29
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Yeah. So I, I use a couple of different testings, so I have my own kind of intake forms I’ve created over the years to identify how someone’s living. And then I love the system of human design, if you’ve heard of that, for helping to find someone’s authentic blueprint, is the term they use. But basically the way I see it is it’s who you were created to be before all the develops and cities came on.

00;42;53;29 – 00;43;14;02
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Another term for that is conditioning. Before you were conditioned and the reason I like it is that it’s based off your birth. This is a bit woo woo. It’s kind of like it’s a marriage of like astrology and a few other things, but I can say is this is the most accurate system I’ve ever experienced and I’m very picky.

00;43;15;04 – 00;43;44;17
Jessi Michel Agadoni
I don’t really like too many systems because I don’t feel like they’re granular enough. This is so granular. David Like it’s just so, so fun. So for deep thinkers, people that really like details this is like an, a really impressive system. And so other programs like Enneagram, Myers-Briggs, all sort of things, they’re based off of you in your, in authentic self like rating yourself.

00;43;44;20 – 00;44;03;09
Jessi Michel Agadoni
So it’s like, how can that be accurate? Like you’re reading it from your conditioned self, whereas this is based off like this is just who you are, boom, like before all of the part of my language, but the shit hit the fan, you know how this stuff roll. And so I really like using that system as as one of my routes to understand.

00;44;04;13 – 00;44;31;17
Jessi Michel Agadoni
I feel like it’s very objective. And then again, my intuition within conversation. I have a very intimate experience with my clients. We meet every two weeks for a good amount of time, anywhere from an hour to 90 minutes. So it’s really a lot of luxurious lushes time to go deep. There’s no rush. That’s really important to me. And so I create a really just personal relationship with my client.

00;44;31;17 – 00;45;01;00
Jessi Michel Agadoni
So through that space, we’re able to get into the gold, we’re able to get into those corners, in those crevices and really understand what happened. I’m not a therapist and I always am very clear about that. I have incredible referrals if anyone ever needs them. But I also I’m really good at like walking people through things. So if it’s something that is safe and they feel comfortable, we’ll talk through things or feel into things.

00;45;02;21 – 00;45;32;08
Jessi Michel Agadoni
If we ever hit a deep block, I’ll refer them out. But that also allows us to get in there because understanding how we hold emotions and what organ system is attached to that will show us and often guide us towards how we created a health imbalance. Provisions sample. With sensitives, we often have deep wells of anger and sadness, and most of us would not identify with that or want to claim that.

00;45;32;18 – 00;45;55;20
Jessi Michel Agadoni
But it’s true because we’ve been rejected and misunderstood for most of our lives, and that is so frustrating to us because we just want to be known and loved and so that gets buried in the liver. We also experience a lot of grief and that gets buried in the lungs. So there’s just these different places where we hold certain emotions and it gets expressed.

00;45;55;20 – 00;46;19;27
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Your symptoms, like most sensitive they experience have liver gallbladder dysfunction and that comes forward in different ways through digestive dysfunction, having, you know, trouble with bowel movements or having IBS or having despite your CIS, which means pathogens overwhelming the gut, which looks like bloating or acne or brain fog or continuous depression because serotonin is made in the gut.

00;46;19;27 – 00;46;45;03
Jessi Michel Agadoni
There’s so many things that get LinkedIn. And so my gifting in my job is to be your partner, to be that detective in your life that can say, Hey, I’m hearing this, let’s explore, let’s dove in, let’s use lab work, let’s use symptoms, let’s use your health story. You know, what did your childhood look like? Did your mom breastfeed where you want antibiotics for years and years and years?

00;46;45;03 – 00;47;06;06
Jessi Michel Agadoni
You know, did you recover this way or that way? If your child of the eighties, there was a lot that went down and a lot of things that shifted the body. And so even toxins, you know, did you go to college? Did you live in a dorm room? Most likely you were exposed to mold and mycotoxins and that’s heavy on the body and overwhelms the liver.

00;47;06;06 – 00;47;28;20
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And there’s so many layers and so it’s it’s my job to be good at knowing the possibilities and helping you navigate when they’re relevant, when they’re not, when testing is helpful, when it’s not and each person is different. So honoring it’s my job to honor that process and to be in partnership. I don’t believe in practitioners or doctors playing God.

00;47;28;26 – 00;47;50;11
Jessi Michel Agadoni
I’m very anti that I don’t pretend to know it all. I definitely don’t. And often what I try and teach my clients are often what I always try to teach my clients is that they know their body best period. I’m learning from their body, I’m listening to their body. I’m helping them then interpret. I act as a temporary translator in a way.

00;47;50;11 – 00;48;12;26
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Like, let me help you hear what your body is saying. And then once you can listen and translate your own body’s messages, you don’t need as much help. And so my end goal is always to empower my clients to be able to tune into their body, to know what’s going on. Then fear dissipates, too. There’s a lot of fear, oftentimes with with physical health imbalances.

00;48;13;22 – 00;48;33;02
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And that just gives you that ability to know who you are and to honor and to feel the subtle shifts, to know when you’re in authenticity and out of authenticity. And that’s what can keep you healthy, long term and shows you who you’re meant to be and who you’re not. And that’s big. That’s everything as everyone wants to know, right, is how who am I supposed to be?

00;48;33;02 – 00;48;48;07
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Why am I here now? How how am I here to live? And that’s really what I help people uncover. So it’s it’s health and nutrition, but it’s so much deeper than that, you know? Yeah. Typical introvert, right? We can’t stay shallow.

00;48;48;07 – 00;48;53;19
David Hall
Yeah, that’s great. Thank you for sharing all of that. You’re also a fellow podcaster. What’s the name of your podcast?

00;48;54;06  – 00;48;55;03
David Hall
I’ve been enjoying it.

00;48;55;11 – 00;49;30;24
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Oh, thank you, David. That means the world. It’s called the Authentic Calm Podcast. And yes, we have such wonderful guests on there. We talk about all things health. We also talk about just sensitivity in general, many different modalities and therapies and just tools to help you find your authenticity and the term authentic is very meaningful. For me, it means truly coming in to that place of unique restful ease and that is where your body is whole.

00;49;30;24 – 00;49;32;06
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Your body is healthy.

00;49;33;26 – 00;49;52;14
David Hall
Absolutely. And so here we are, a couple of introvert podcasters, I think, busting the myth that sometimes I hear people say that introverts don’t have a lot to say, but I say the opposite. I’m like, We have a lot to say because we’re always thinking. And yes, you know, it’s so great to be able to share ideas with guests like this.

00;49;52;14 – 00;49;54;16
David Hall
And so that’s another myth for you.

00;49;55;21 – 00;49;57;16
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Myth busting.

00;49;57;16 – 00;50;11;01
David Hall
Yeah, that’s what we do. So we’ve talked a lot about a lot of great things about introversion, being highly sensitive, being an empath, the strengths of it all, the gifts. Is there anything else that we didn’t talk about that you would like to?

00;50;12;23 – 00;50;39;23
Jessi Michel Agadoni
I think just the last thing I would say would be to further emphasize how important it is to honor who you were created to be. This isn’t just some trend. This isn’t just some fun idea we’re tossing around. This is who you were created to be, and there’s a reason for that. I believe in free will, and I believe we choose our bodies and we choose who we’re here to be.

00;50;40;05 – 00;51;06;24
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And that includes our personality, that includes our inborn traits. And if that’s the case, then leaning away from things like introversion or sensitivity or your empathic abilities because a parent or a coach or someone in your life put you down for it is not just a disservice to you. It’s a disservice to every single person you come in contact with because you are here on purpose.

00;51;07;08 – 00;51;47;10
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Nothing in my mind is an accident and you are called to a higher purpose and your introversion, your sensitivity, your empathy are integral to that. So if I can encourage anyone listening, it’s to lean into those, to embrace them, whether the label or not, but the lifestyle, the the way that you choose to interact with people, the way that you choose to schedule, work, eat, breathe, sleep, let it honor those parts of you and you will see so much fruit from that you really well.

00;51;48;14 – 00;52;07;25
David Hall
Very well said, Jessie. Thank you. And I know that all the things that we’re talking about today, these are gifts come to us very naturally, because I’ve spent plenty of time trying to be something I wasn’t. And it’s not effective. It’s training, but when you can embrace who you are and the natural gifts that you have, it’s a beautiful thing.

00;52;08;27 – 00;52;15;05
David Hall
Yeah. So thank you so much for being on today. Yeah, of course. Where can people find out more about the great work that you’re doing?

00;52;15;15 – 00;52;54;16
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Yes. So I my website is Merfluer Wellness,com, that’s me r f l e u r wellness and I am occasionally on Instagram. I get spurts of energy and then I leave because I have to rebuild my energy. But I am there at MerFleur Wellness as well. And then my podcast, as I said, is authentic.com We have an Instagram, so if you want to follow, you can, but otherwise we’re on Apple and all the usual and then for those that any of you that my my discussions on health it’s it’s sitting with you and your asking for you to pay attention.

00;52;54;29 – 00;53;15;25
Jessi Michel Agadoni
I’d be honored to support you. I have two routes. I have something called the method, the authentic method. And that is for those that aren’t ready to bring someone in. Maybe me talking about how personal gets is a little scary and that’s okay. The method is there for you to empower yourself. I have it. It’s a five week.

00;53;16;03 – 00;53;38;13
Jessi Michel Agadoni
I guess you call it a program in a way, but it’s lifetime access. You can go as slow as you want, as fast as you want. And the goal is to empower you and to give you the ability to reconnect with your body, to refresh yourself and to be able to tune in, to create your own rhythm, is what I call it, that matches your authenticity.

00;53;38;13 – 00;53;58;25
Jessi Michel Agadoni
And then ultimately to provide you with a whole library of sensitive, safe remedies, tools, therapies, tonics, modalities, and they’re all just there for you. So if that sounds good, that’s a wonderful way to start to start healing your body and clearing away some of the develop sensitivities. If you want more intimate help, maybe you’re struggling with an autoimmune condition.

00;53;58;25 – 00;54;28;10
Jessi Michel Agadoni
You have some diagnoses, you’re feeling really stuck and you want a partner. That is my one on one work. And it’s very, very powerful. I I’m getting better at boasting, but I’m I’m really good at what I do. And I’m I’m here for sensitives. I’m here to heal sensitive. So if that’s you like this is, this is a good partnership, and I’d be honored to walk with you on your journey so you can find all of that at MerFleurWellness dot com.

00;54;29;12 – 00;54;34;09
David Hall
All right. Thanks so much, Jesse. And I will put all that information in the show notes, too. So thank you for being on today.

00;54;34;23 – 00;54;37;12
Jessi Michel Agadoni
Oh, my absolute honor. Thank you for having me. David.

00;54;38;23 – 00;55;04;05
David Hall
Thank you so much for joining me. I look forward to further connecting with you. Reach out to David at QuietandStrong com or check out the quiet and strong dot com website which includes blog posts, links to social media and other items that may be topics or guests you would like to see on the show. If you’re interested in getting to know yourself better, there’s now a free time to find your personality assessment on the quiet, strong website.

00;55;04;24 – 00;55;28;01
David Hall
This free assessment will give you a brief report, including the four letter Myers-Briggs code. All add a link to the show notes. There’s so many great things about being an introvert, so we need those to be understood. Get to know your introverted strengths and needs and be strong.

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