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Have you ever wondered if you could be successful as an introvert? You can!

Today our guest is Camilla Jeffs, the Introverted Investor. After years of doing real estate investments while also working a corporate job, Camilla learned to apply her introverted skills to open her own company helping other introverts to find success as investors. A teacher at heart, this triathlete, outdoor enthusiast, CEO, and mother of 5 children shares her secrets to success in running a business, networking, and creating wealth as an introvert.

Learn how you can use your introverted skills to become a success!

Embracing the Introvert’s Strength in Real Estate Investing: A Chat with Camilla Jeffs

Welcome back to another illuminating episode of The Quiet And Strong Podcast. I’m your host, David Hall, and today, we have a truly enlightening discussion that tackles one of the most pervasive myths in professional circles—the notion that introversion is a hurdle to success, especially in the bustling world of real estate investing.
Our guest, Camilla Jeffs, is an introverted real estate investor who has charted a remarkable path by leveraging her introverted qualities to extraordinary effect. Let’s dive deep into the insights from this episode, “The Introvert Investor with Camilla Jeffs.”

The Misunderstood Nature of Introverts

One vital aspect we’ve touched upon today is the extensive misjudgment surrounding introverts. Many believe introverts are antisocial or reticent when, in fact, introverts like myself and Camilla appreciate meaningful human connection—it’s the scope and situation that differ. The depth of thought, preference for writing, and preparation for communication are just a few of the nuances defining the introverted approach in both personal interactions and professional settings.

The Introverted Edge in Real Estate

We’ve all heard that real estate is all about the hustle, the constant networking, and an almost aggressive extroversion. Yet, Camilla Jeffs has turned that assumption on its head. She demonstrates that the thorough research and the opportunity to be a passive investor can play to the introvert’s strengths. It allows an individual like her, who processes internally, to thrive in the real estate investment domain.

Camilla’s Journey of Self-Discovery

During our chat, Camilla shared a pivotal moment of self-discovery when she attended networking events. She realized her networking style starkly contrasted with her extroverted counterparts and found that she networked differently, with excess noise pulling her focus away. This realization led to an embrace of her introverted needs and strengths, such as an inclination towards writing to communicate effectively, and an aptitude for preparing thoroughly for public speaking engagements.

Strategy and Structure

Camilla keenly managed her time after stepping away from her job, setting a structured schedule that helped her cope with the change. This transition underscored a significant theme we discussed: the absence of traditional external validation often faced by introverts in entrepreneurial roles. She shared strategies she developed to measure her success and maintain motivation.

Deconstructing Myths and Discussing Guides

Our conversation delved into debunking the myth that introverts cannot reach high levels of success. By referencing various successful introverts and discussing the complimentary nature of introverted and extroverted characteristics, we highlighted the richness that each personality type brings to the table. Camilla also spoke about her guide for introverts in real estate investing, which details the compatible fit of introversion in this field.

Synergy in Business

How do introverts and extroverts coexist in a business partnership? Camilla and I explored this in depth, showing how blending different personality traits can lead to a well-rounded business structure. She described how essential it is to match roles to strengths rather than forcing a conventional fit. Whether it’s acquisitions or capital raising, introverts can find success on their own terms.

Making the Leap to Full-Time Entrepreneur

Taking the plunge into full-time entrepreneurship is daunting for anyone, and as an introvert, Camilla recounted her experiences in making this leap. She credited the book “Quiet” by Susan Cain as a resource that helped her realize that introversion is not a barrier to successful entrepreneurship. This testament highlights how we, as introverts, can lead in our unique way, attracting individuals who resonate with our approach and teaching others to thrive quietly yet powerfully.

Entrepreneurial Introversion: Its Advantages and Challenges

In closing, we discussed the specific aspects of full-time entrepreneurship that suit the introvert’s personality and the challenges that persist. The road isn’t devoid of struggles, but by understanding our natural inclinations and how to work with them, the journey becomes more manageable and more rewarding.
Today’s episode of The Quiet And Strong Podcast has been an astounding reminder that introversion is not a trait to be fixed but to be celebrated and harnessed. I hope you’ve found solace and inspiration in Camilla’s story and our discussion—the introverted investor isn’t just a possibility; it’s a powerful reality.
Thank you for joining us, and until our next episode, keep embracing your quiet strength.

Key Takeaways

  • Introverted strengths such as deep thinking, listening, and meaningful conversations can be leveraged for success in real estate investing.
  • Camilla Jeffs is an example of an introverted entrepreneur who has effectively utilized her introverted traits to build a successful real estate investment company.
  • The myth that introverts are not people-oriented is debunked, as they do enjoy social interactions but in more intimate settings.
  • Introverts can offer deep insights in business partnerships, complementing extroverted colleagues in roles like acquisition and underwriting.
  • Understanding and embracing one’s introversion is crucial to achieving success and personal fulfillment, as shown by Camilla’s journey and the insights from David Hall.
  • Time management and coping with the lack of external validation are challenges that introverted entrepreneurs like Camilla have faced and overcome.
  • The podcast encourages introverts to embrace their unique qualities and learn strategies to excel in business and life without needing to change their core nature.

Make Changes Now

After listening to episode 44, “The Introvert Investor with Camilla Jeffs,” here are several actions you can take:

  1. Self-Assessment: Reflect on your personality traits by taking our free personality assessment quiz and identify where you fall on the introvert-extrovert spectrum. Acknowledging your own tendencies can help you leverage your strengths more effectively.
  2. Educate Yourself: Consider picking up books like “Quiet” by Susan Cain or other resources mentioned by Camilla Jeffs to deepen your understanding of introversion, particularly in the entrepreneurial or investment context.
  3. Time Management: Adopt Camilla’s strategy for productivity by creating a detailed schedule if you’re transitioning to a new routine or entrepreneurship. Make sure this schedule includes recharge time to cope with overwhelm and prevent burnout.
  4. Networking Alternatives: If traditional networking events feel challenging, look for alternative ways to connect with people that suit your introverted style, such as smaller gatherings or online forums where you can engage in deeper, more meaningful conversations.
  5. Skill Development: Work on developing your introvert-friendly strengths, like deep research for passive investment strategies if you’re interested in real estate, or improving your written communication if you prefer writing to speaking.

Remember, the podcast ultimately encourages you to embrace your introverted qualities and apply them to your personal and professional life. By doing so, you can find success in ways that align with your natural inclinations.

Contacts and Links

Guest: Camilla Jeffs

Get Camilla’s free guide – 
The Introvert’s Guide to Successful Real Estate Investing

LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/camilla-jeffs/

YouTube: 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2MFOVyPWo0XD0QVJxgDxbQ

Instagram:www.instagram.com/theintroverted_investor

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Timestamped Overview

00:00 Real estate learning and success for introverts.
03:35 Struggled with networking at real estate events.
07:28 Prefers writing over speaking for online marketing.
10:42 Connection needs vary, but we all need it.
14:31 Real estate investing ideal for introverts, research.
18:35 Raising capital – introverted versus extroverted approach.
22:24 Implementing strategies, learning to lead, attracting like-minded people.
24:31 Scheduled time blocks helped improve daily productivity.
27:00 Introvert-friendly real estate investment strategies without networking.
29:37 Embracing different approaches to success and happiness.

Podcast Transcript

Camilla Jeffs [00:00:00]:
I’m trying to teach a different way that you don’t have to do it like big gurus are teaching. You can do it definitely do it quietly and still be successful. There’s there’s no reason you can’t be successful in a in a more

David Hall [00:00:25]:
Hello, and welcome to the Quiet and Strong podcast, especially for introverts. I’m your host, David Hall, and the creator of quietandstrong.com. Sick. It’s a weekly podcast dedicated to understanding the strengths and needs of introverts. Introversion is not something to fix but to be embraced. Normally, we’ll air each episode on a Monday. Be sure to subscribe on your favorite platform. Today, our guest is Camilla Jeffs, sick.

David Hall [00:00:51]:
The introverted investor. After years of doing real estate investments while also working a corporate job, Camilla learned to apply her introverted skills sick. To open her own company, helping other introverts to find success as investors. A teacher at heart, this triathlete, outdoor enthusiast, sick. CEO and mother of 5 children shares her secrets to success in running a business, networking, and creating wealth as an introvert.

David Hall [00:01:19]:
Sick. Alright. I’m very excited today to have our guest, Camilla Jeffs. Camilla Jeffs is the introverted investor, and we’re gonna let her Tell us about that. So welcome, Camilla.

Camilla Jeffs [00:01:31]:
Thanks, David. I’m so excited to be here.

David Hall [00:01:35]:
It’s very nice to have you. So sick. You call yourself the introverted investor. Tell us a little bit more about yourself, you know, what you do and how you came to sick. To to be the introverted investor.

Camilla Jeffs [00:01:49]:
Yeah. So I’ve been, investing in real estate for almost 20 years now. Sick. And, the 1st 15 of those years was just investing kind of on on my own. It was me and my husband, and we would just sick. Go buy our own houses and and fix them up, and then we’d rent them out, and we just acquired properties that way. And, we just kinda did it. Sick.

Camilla Jeffs [00:02:14]:
We didn’t really talk to very many people about it. It was just all all doing our own thing, using our own money, our own muscles, our own time. Sick. And then and then I decided it was time to scale and get into bigger things. And so I started investing in apartments. Sick. And apartments is a whole different game because it’s investing with partners. You don’t invest in apartments by yourself.

Camilla Jeffs [00:02:40]:
Sick. It’s a group investment. And, that’s when I started realizing that that it was, different. So it was it was just very different to to figure out partnerships and and doing that. And and, and then as I was sick. Learning more about real estate and investing, I was realizing that there’s some really specific strategies out there that are perfect for introverts, that that I and so I just wanted as the introverted investor, I wanted to be able to educate other introverts on how they can be successful in real estate.

David Hall [00:03:17]:
Sick. Yeah. Very nice. And, you know, I always say it’s there’s not one right job for sick. An introvert or extrovert, but you have to bring your strengths into whatever it is you’re doing. So let’s talk about that. So when did you, sick. Figure out that you were an introvert.

Camilla Jeffs [00:03:35]:
Really, when, so sick. At about the 15 years in, when I started going to networking events, so large real estate networking events, because I knew I needed to do that in order to partner with others and find some good partners. And I realized at those events that sick. I was networking very differently than most of the people there. And most of the people there would sick. Just, you know, group up, and they just bounce from group to group and, you know, and and enjoy conversing with hundreds of people. Sick, and I did not. And I did not enjoy conversing with hundreds of people, and it just drained me.

Camilla Jeffs [00:04:18]:
And and it felt very, sick, odd for my personality to to do that and uncomfortable. And so when I what I started doing is I started looking for people who were sitting alone. Sick. Right? And then I’d go sit by that person, and I’d network with that person and get to know that person. And so I would have longer 1 on 1 conversations at these meetups and and networking meetups. And at first, I thought, well, maybe it’s just because I’m scared, right, or I’m shy or something. But sick then. That’s when I realized it’s actually no.

Camilla Jeffs [00:04:49]:
It’s because I’m more introverted. And and and as I started learning more about introversion and and, sick about the different aspects of it. There were many of them that I was like, oh, yeah. Check that box. Yep. That’s me. Yep. That’s me.

Camilla Jeffs [00:05:03]:
That’s me. You know? Sick. But not all of them. Not every single characteristic of an introvert is, is my personality, but most of many of them are.

David Hall [00:05:15]:
Sick. Yeah. And and our personalities are multifaceted for sure. I’ve I say that The biggest thing is is that we tend to go inside inside our inner world of ideas more often than not. You know, we all spend time sick. Thinking, we all spend time looking around outside of us, but an introvert spends more time in your inner world. And sick. That’s this key to success is embracing it like you’re saying.

David Hall [00:05:43]:
You know, that realizing, hey, you know, this person might be sick. Bouncing around at this networking event and talking to as many people as they can. But that’s draining to me, but it’s also not effective for me.

Camilla Jeffs [00:05:58]:
Sick. Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I’d say another clue for me about about introversion was that, if I sick. Go on drives. You know, I I don’t like, I don’t necessarily like listening to music most of the time. Sometimes I’ll put music on, But other times, I just like to be in my thoughts.

Camilla Jeffs [00:06:19]:
I can sit there in silence and just just be in my thoughts, or or or maybe I’ll just listen to a podcast or something. But I find excess noise, to be distracting. Right? Because I I like to be in my in my own thoughts.

David Hall [00:06:34]:
Sick. Yeah. Absolutely. And, you know, during the pandemic, I I’ve been working from home, And I realized how much I missed that drive to work and back. I don’t miss the traffic. The traffic is terrible most days. Sick. But just just like you’re describing, you know, being alone with my thoughts.

David Hall [00:06:54]:
And a lot of times, you know, it was definitely a recharge time for me, You know, especially after work. But a lot of times, I had some great ideas. And I talk about that sometimes too. It’s like I had to figure out a way to capture those. So a lot of times I’d call myself hands free and leave myself a message because I had the best ideas while I was all by myself on that drive. And, sick. That time that you spend alone is is very important. It’s it’s definitely a a need that we have.

David Hall [00:07:22]:
Sick. What are some other strengths that you’ve found that you’ve learned to embrace as an introvert?

Camilla Jeffs [00:07:28]:
One of those is writing over speaking. Sick. So I, I feel like that I can express myself much better as a writer than I can as, you know, in conversation or or in speaking. So in my line of business so part of my part of my business, steady stream investments 6 months is online marketing. And you can do that in multiple ways. And one of those ways is writing, and one is, you know, video and speaking. Sick. And I find I have a really hard time with the video piece of it, because I I don’t have you don’t have time to really succinct through and and and be careful about your language.

Camilla Jeffs [00:08:09]:
Right? So I love the writing piece of it, and I love to just write and sick and educate via written things. And in fact, sometimes when I make videos, I have to write out a script. Right? Because I I it just doesn’t sick flow from my brain. The speaking part doesn’t flow from my brain. But oddly enough, I actually enjoy speaking on stage, but sick. I typically do have to memorize my entire speech so that, I can go up there and and deliver it. I don’t I I, you know, I can’t just come up with something out of my head.

David Hall [00:08:44]:
Hey. You’re hitting some key points on success as an introvert. It’s we we we think. We’re deep thinkers. We we need to think about things. And so writing often is a better approach for us because we like to take the time, You know, maybe just craft that email and spend some time thinking about what you wanna say. And, sick. You know, I enjoy speaking too.

David Hall [00:09:09]:
And, you know, sometimes people think that’s weird. And, again, it’s kind of the some of the misunderstandings about introverts. But I don’t necessarily memorize, but I really need to think and prepare about what I’m gonna say and have have some really good ideas about that. And so, sick. Yeah. Writing and preparation are definitely keys for us as introverts.

Camilla Jeffs [00:09:31]:
Yes, for sure.

David Hall [00:09:32]:
Sick. Are there any myths that you’ve, come across that you wanna dispel?

Camilla Jeffs [00:09:38]:
Yeah. I mean, there’s a common myth that introverts don’t like people, sick. That’s not true. Not true at all. Right, that we that we don’t want friends or or things like that. Sick, but, I still enjoy human interaction very much. It’s just I I just don’t enjoy large groups. Sick.

Camilla Jeffs [00:09:58]:
Right? Like, if if we were to host a party at our home, I would prefer 1 or to my 1 or 2 families over, not 7 or 8. Right? And so that’s the I think that’s one of the myths about about introverts is that we just don’t like people. We don’t like talking. Sick. That’s not true either. Right?

David Hall [00:10:18]:
Yeah.

Camilla Jeffs [00:10:19]:
But, yeah.

David Hall [00:10:21]:
That’s a silly one, isn’t it, that we don’t like people? Sick. You know, I I think you said you had 5 kids. So

Camilla Jeffs [00:10:27]:
I do.

David Hall [00:10:27]:
You probably like people.

Camilla Jeffs [00:10:29]:
I do.

David Hall [00:10:30]:
Yeah. I

Camilla Jeffs [00:10:31]:
very much enjoy being with them.

David Hall [00:10:32]:
Sick. Yeah. And it’s of course, we like people. And, you know, I I heard that during the pandemic too. It’s like, oh, you introverts. You’re just having a great sick. Time being all by yourself. I’m like, no.

David Hall [00:10:42]:
We all need connection. It just looks different. Like you said, you know, you might not have a 100 people over at your house, But, you know, you might have a couple families over, and and, you know, again, there’s not a right or wrong. It’s it’s what, you know, what works for you and and what you enjoy, but It is a really silly one that that we hate people because it’s just not true. How we socialize may look a little different. Our needs might be different, but We still have definitely social needs for sure. Is there any other miss that you wanna dispel today?

Camilla Jeffs [00:11:12]:
I think that sick. Yeah. I I think that’s the that’s the main one that that I was thinking about.

David Hall [00:11:19]:
Okay. And in your work as an investor, sick. What do you think are some of your, strengths or even superpowers as an introvert that you bring to that?

Camilla Jeffs [00:11:30]:
Yeah. So one of the superpowers is the the ability to listen, and and because I’m not so busy talking about my business. And sick. My business is not about me. It’s about my investors, and it’s about investors and and what, sick on what passive investing can do to really change their lives and the impact that they can create with that. Such in. And so that’s really what, you know, one of my superpowers is along with the writing. I’m I have the ability to really educate and really reach sick people in, deeper ways rather than surface level.

Camilla Jeffs [00:12:08]:
And I think that’s one of my superpowers is is those those abilities such. You reach them and to really listen and have have good conversations with them.

David Hall [00:12:20]:
Okay. Sick. And I’m sure there’s plenty of introverts and extroverts in your line of work. What would you say how how would it How would it look different for maybe an extrovert doing the same thing?

Camilla Jeffs [00:12:34]:
Yeah. So, sick. And extroverts extroverts, they they like to talk a lot more. Right? And and so and they process sick by talking. You know? And and and and introverts, we process by thinking. We so we’re we go inward to process. Extroverts will go external to sick process. And so I think external our extroverts get tripped up sometimes when they when they are talking with investors because they sick in order for them to process what’s happening.

Camilla Jeffs [00:13:05]:
They have to talk. And so then the ratio of of who’s talking more kind of gets can get a little bit skewed, sick, because it’s important to really listen to the investor to understand their goals instead of just completely going and and talking, and saying, well, this is exactly how it is, and this is what you should do, and this is what you should not do. Right? I I feel like I’m more sick of a Yoda. I’m like a guide. I can guide people instead of, you know, the Darth Vader that’s forcing, you know, people to do it.

David Hall [00:13:37]:
Sick. Yeah. I like that way of looking at it. And that’s the thing. It’s that’s another really common or big difference between introverts and extroverts is sick. If they speak in order to think while we’re putting all our thoughts together in a succinct way sick. And just sharing that that most important thought while they’re sharing a lot of things, and, that’s that’s a big one to understand. Sick.

David Hall [00:14:05]:
And do you notice the difference when you’re working with with your customers, like, the difference between introverted and extroverted customers? Sick.

Camilla Jeffs [00:14:14]:
Yeah. For sure. For sure. There’s a there there are differences in in their approach and in in the way they do it. And, sick. You know, the introverts will ask really deep questions, and and I appreciate that. And I love that. I love that about them that they’re thinking pretty critically about it.

Camilla Jeffs [00:14:31]:
Sick. They want to under fully understand the risks involved. And I think that, you know, real estate investing is actually a the perfect method for introverts because you can go deep in into into the topics, 6, and you can and you can do a ton a ton of research. Like, I love to research. I could sit for hours and research something. And and it’s a it’s a really great way to sick to do it. And as a, if you come in as a passive investor, it’s also fantastic because you can spend all the time researching searching and understanding and and, you know, comparing and you can, you know, pull up your spreadsheets if you want and do all your pros and cons list and sick, things like that. And then once you decide that, okay.

Camilla Jeffs [00:15:14]:
Yes. This is a good thing for me. You’re the passive investor in this group sick where you are simply investing your money, but you don’t have to put in your time. So you won’t have to be the one that’s out there, you know, knocking doors and try and talking to all the all sticking to all the all the people and, you know, really doing all the extroverted work that comes with with real estate investing. Because there is a lot of work that sick that is more extroverted in nature. That has to be done. So but you can trust the other general partners to take care of that for you. So you don’t have to be the landlord.

Camilla Jeffs [00:15:49]:
You have to you don’t have to deal with tenants or toilets or termites or anything like that. You can simply do all the research and evaluation, invest your money and feel good about and then start participating in the returns.

David Hall [00:16:01]:
Yeah. Absolutely. And, sick. Yeah. We’re good researchers. And so Yes. That’s that’s definitely a strength. And then you also mentioned partnering.

David Hall [00:16:11]:
Sick. So Mhmm. You know, we we have our gifts, and, you know, as introverts, we you and I probably have a lot uncommon, but if we were to really get to know each other, you there’s probably a lot of areas where we’re different. And, same with extroverted partners, sick. We we each have our own strengths. And so how might you partner with somebody else that maybe has some different strengths where, you know, you can use your strengths sick. And there may be a different aspect of the business that somebody just truly is is is more gifted at. You know? And, again, we all have our own strengths.

David Hall [00:16:45]:
So sick. How do you partner in in the work that you do?

Camilla Jeffs [00:16:49]:
Yeah. Well and in my business, we need each other. Right? So introverts need extroverts. Extroverts need introverts, sick, because introverts tend to be very detail oriented and and can and can really dive deep in into topics. Sick. And introverts need extroverts to be the one out there. Like so in my line of business, there’s there’s kind of 4 main partners. There’s the acquisition specialist.

Camilla Jeffs [00:17:13]:
Sick. That’s the person that’s out there trying to find the deals. So they’re out there calling cold calling brokers and owners. And, you know, and as an an introvert. I cannot cold call. Like, it I there’s just I I don’t know what to do. I don’t know what to say. And and because I don’t have a relationship with that person, you know, because because I prefer deep relationships.

Camilla Jeffs [00:17:35]:
But extroverts have no problem. And they I mean, they might be a little bit nervous about doing it at first, but then They get over it, and they’re able to do lots of cold calling. So I need someone like that in my business, and I and I have found someone like that. Sick. And then, there is the underwriter, and the underwriter is like the financial analyst. This is a another perfect role for an introvert who loves spreadsheets. And they love to just dive into the spreadsheets and analyze things all day long, but they don’t necessarily have to do the extroverted work of sick. Cold calling and finding finding the deal.

Camilla Jeffs [00:18:10]:
Then there’s the one who raises capital, so who’s who’s talks to investors sick and does that. Now this one’s funny because people ask me, well, that’s that’s my specialty, right, is is, talking to investors and helping them understand and be educated. And people say, well, what? That’s like an extroverted activity. That’s not an inner activity. And I say, well, wait a minute. Let’s think about this. Sick. It could be both.

Camilla Jeffs [00:18:35]:
Right? It could be both. So there it could be an extroverted activity. You know, someone who goes to lots of sick. Big meetups and and talks to, you know, a 100 people at every meetup and gives out their card and collects them. That’s one way sick to raise capital and to and to to bring investors into deals. But the way I like to do it is the introverted way, and that’s why, you know, writing and and providing some really great value and creating some creating lots of content around it and that that, you know, sits out there on the Internet. So I prefer to do mine from, you know, the safety of my home and and do and raise capital that way. Sick.

Camilla Jeffs [00:19:14]:
And then you have the asset manager. And the asset manager is the one who’s really dealing with all the property managers and the and any tenant issues that come up and things like sad. And that one probably does require a little bit more extroversion than introversion, because as the problems come, you have to solve them pretty quickly.

David Hall [00:19:32]:
Sick. Okay. And, you know, I always say people can do sick. Any job, it’s just you know, you said that in the role that you do in this work, you’re doing it in your way, and that’s the key. Sick. And, any of the positions that you mentioned, you know, people could find the way to do it in an introverted way. Sick. Just you know, they may lend themselves more towards someone that’s a extrovert.

David Hall [00:20:01]:
But no matter what it is and I think yours is a really good example. Somebody might think, well, the Extrovert needs to do that. No. I just I can bring my skills. This is something that I really enjoy, that I have a passion for, sick. But I’m gonna do it in my way, you know, and and bring my deep thinking skills and all the other, all the other things with it. So that’s that’s a really good example. Sick.

David Hall [00:20:25]:
So, you told me that you recently quit your day job. Right?

Camilla Jeffs [00:20:30]:
I did. Yes.

David Hall [00:20:32]:
Sick. So how is that for introvert to be an entrepreneur full time?

Camilla Jeffs [00:20:37]:
Yeah. So as a sick. As an entrepreneur, it’s very different. Right? So, when I was working in my in my w two, I was working in HR. Sick. And in HR, the nature of that job is there’s lots of, problems being thrown at you every other minute. Sick. And so it’s it’s very high stress.

Camilla Jeffs [00:21:01]:
It’s a high stress job. And, and I enjoyed it, and I did enjoy it. Sick. But my real estate business, was just growing and growing and growing on the side and came to the point where I had to choose 1 or the other. Sick. And what I’m most passionate about is is the real estate is helping investors really scanned, what’s available to them, and and and, you know, break out of only investing in the stock market and and really diversifying out of the stock market. Sick. And so yeah.

Camilla Jeffs [00:21:31]:
So now I’m a full time entrepreneur. And, and, you know, and and it was funny because sick. Right after, or I think right before I left my job, I was feeling I was feeling anxious about it. And so I ordered, I ordered the book so quiet by Susan Cain.

David Hall [00:21:49]:
Yeah.

Camilla Jeffs [00:21:49]:
That’s a good one. When I read this one. And and it was so great, and it really helped me in the transition, sick. Because I was trying to figure out, well, how could I do this as, you know, as an introvert? How could I be successful? Because because I think that’s maybe that’s another myth I wanna dispel is that introverts cannot be a successful entrepreneurs. And and sick because it’s just simply not true. We just do it a different way than extroverts do it. Right? We do it more, more quietly. Sick.

Camilla Jeffs [00:22:24]:
But I loved the, you know, the different strategies that she had in here. And so I’ve I’m trying to implement sick a bunch of those strategies in, into my life, right, and and into my role as the entrepreneur. But I think, sick. Really, what I’m learning is that I can lead, and I can be a leader in my in my space, sick, in my own way. And it’s interesting because I will attract the people who sick who are more like me. And and I realized that there’s actually a lot of real estate investors out there, and I even pulled, you know, like a Facebook a group once and just said, hey. You know, who out here who out here is an introvert, and do you think you can be successful in what you’re in what you’re doing? And their huge response, such huge response. A lot of people are like, yes.

Camilla Jeffs [00:23:16]:
I I’m an introvert, and I’m just really struggling. I just don’t know I just don’t see how I can sick. Get the best deals or, you know, do all the things because there’s so much noise around in real estate. We have to go knock doors or you you have to take all these cold calling things. Sick. And so I’m trying to teach a different way that, you know, you can you can, you don’t have to do it sick. Like, big gurus are teaching, you can do it definitely do it quietly and still be successful. There’s there’s no reason you can’t be successful sick in a in a more quietly.

David Hall [00:23:51]:
Okay. As as an introvert, what parts of sick. Being a newly, full time entrepreneur work for you, and what might still be a struggle?

Camilla Jeffs [00:24:03]:
Sick. Yeah. So, with the time time management. Right? So I’ve been, I was very careful about my time. I put together a whole spreadsheet of exactly what I was gonna do every hour because I knew that as soon as I left my w two and suddenly had all this white, you know, space on my calendar, sick that that might be unsettling for me. And it was. And it was unsettling for me, to not have people relying on me. Sick.

Camilla Jeffs [00:24:31]:
And so the the time management, it helped a lot to have, like, certain blocks in my day, and then this is when I was going to be on, and Here’s when I was going to write, and this is the time that I was going to, you know, be be a creator and create content. That helped out a a lot. Sick. And then, you know, what are still the struggles? I mean, the the struggles, it’s probably always in my in my head. Right? Just trying to, sick. Feel a measure of success. I feel like I’m I’m successful at the end of every day. And so one of the strategies that I did is I just started writing down sick.

Camilla Jeffs [00:25:07]:
What are all the things that I accomplished at the at at that day? Right? Because no longer do you have external people patting you on the head and saying, hey. You did a good job. Right? You have you you have you have to rely on your internal a person to pat your own self on the head and cheer for yourself and say, hey. You did a good job today. And that’s That’s been very different in in a learning, and a learning for me.

David Hall [00:25:35]:
Very nice. And, yeah, I know there’s lots of sick. Introverts out there that are thinking of doing the same thing, you know, that leaving their day job or their w two. So that’s really helpful. Sick. And it would be. You know? I can imagine. I I think, you know, time management, as you mentioned, is different for the introvert.

David Hall [00:25:56]:
And, You know, it’d be nice to have a little bit more control over that, you know, and your recharge time and all that good stuff.

Camilla Jeffs [00:26:04]:
Sick. Yep. Yep.

David Hall [00:26:06]:
So, I did download your the introvert’s guide to successful real estate investing, sick. And there’s lots of you know, it has it has that introvert’s twist to it like we’re talking about. The introverts can be successful, sick. Using their strengths. So do you wanna speak more about that, how people can get that and and and contact you?

Camilla Jeffs [00:26:28]:
Yeah. So it’s a it’s a guide. Sick. And the 1st part of the guide is just all about why being an introvert is actually a, a pro to being a real estate investor. Right? Like, why why it’s it’s actually really great for you to be an introvert because you’re going to make sick. Really good decisions and very informed decisions. And, because you’ll spend the time really understanding. So it’s all about, you know, the reasons why introversion is actually great, for for investing in real estate.

Camilla Jeffs [00:27:00]:
And then it goes on to describe my favorite strategies for an introvert, that that don’t involve the cold calling and and don’t involve the things that would, that you know, you don’t have to network with thousands of people and and create this this giant network of people. Sick. You can do it quietly, and you can do it with just a couple of of specific strategies. So if you want to grab that, you can grab that from my website. It’s just camilla jeffs sick.com, and you can you can get a hold of that guide for real estate investing. And then also on camilla jeffs.com, you’re feel free to contact sweet. And I’d be happy to talk because I like talking 1 on 1 with the people, you know, and and getting to know their specific situation. And then I can kind of help guide you to to, a strategy that might be really good for you.

David Hall [00:27:55]:
Sick. Very good. Right. Is there anything else that you you wanna talk about that we didn’t cover today?

Camilla Jeffs [00:28:01]:
You know, I just I just wanna, harp on the fact that that as sometimes as introverts, we think that that we can’t be, uber successful. Right? That we can’t sick that we can’t achieve the highest of the highs. But I wanna point out that there are people that that have achieved that. Such in, like Warren Buffett, for example. He’s achieved it. Bill Gates. You know, there there are very, famous introverts in our world that we can look up sick too. But also one other thing I wanted to talk about was, you know, the how how introverts and extroverts need each other.

Camilla Jeffs [00:28:38]:
Sick. So a famous example is Rosa Parks. So we know that Rosa Parks was the woman who refused to give up her seat on the bus. Sick. She did not do that loudly. Right? She did not, you know, stand up and make a fuss and yell and scream and and do all of these things. Sick. She was a very quiet, reserved woman, and and, but then she met up with Martin Luther King.

Camilla Jeffs [00:29:04]:
And Martin Luther King was a, an extrovert. Right? He was just a gifted speaker, and and and he was the loud one, sick. And Rosa was the quiet one. And the 2 of them, when they stood together, made a pretty amazing pair and and and and really changed changed our history. We’re still trying to change the history, but they at least put us on the right trajectory. Right? So I love that example of sick of how introversion and extroversion just really complement each other and and work together.

David Hall [00:29:37]:
Yeah. Exactly. And that’s a great example. Sick. And, of course, we can be very successful and very happy in what we do. The approach is just gonna be different. And, You know, we need to keep bringing these conversations that we have a different way of doing things, and it’s not good or bad. It’s Not good or bad to be an introvert or extrovert.

David Hall [00:29:59]:
It comes to us very naturally. And if we embrace it, we can find that success. Sick. And so thanks again for being on the show. This has been a great conversation.

Camilla Jeffs [00:30:13]:
Yes. Thank you. I appreciate it.

David Hall [00:30:16]:
Sick. Okay. Take care.

David Hall [00:30:18]:
Thank you so much for joining me today. I look forward to further connecting with you. Reach out sick. Atdavid@quietandstrong.com. Check out the website, quietandstrong.com. I’ll add social media channels sick. For me and my guests to the show notes, please comment on social media posts. Send me topics or guests you’d like to see on the show.

David Hall [00:30:41]:
There’s so many great things about being an introvert, and so we need those to be understood. Get to know your introverted strengths and needs, and be strong.

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