The introvert actress, Courtney Ferguson, joins us for the quiet yet strong podcast episode 47.

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Are you dreaming of a specific career but worried that being an introvert will hold you back from success?

Meet Courtney Ferguson, the Introvert Actress.  Most people associate acting with extroverts, those with great big personalities that always want to steal the spotlight. But Courtney – an introverted NY/Atlanta-based actress and speech & voice coach –  shoots down this myth about introversion with real talk about how introverts can succeed in acting and how introversion can actually be a strength in this field.   

Discover how Courtney has overcome shyness, anxiety and even stage fright as the Introvert Actress. And discover how you can use your introvert powers to succeed in your chosen career.

Guest: Courtney Ferguson

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Website: introvert_actress.com

Instagram – @introvertactress

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Timestamped Overview

00:00 Weekly podcast for introverts hosted by David Hall, featuring guest Courtney Ferguson, an introvert actress.

03:37 Realization and acceptance of introversion through reading books.

08:22 Introverts can excel in acting, contrary to popular belief. Many great actors are introverted, as the process requires introspection and analysis.

12:26 The pandemic inspired introvert blog and Instagram.

15:50 Introverts are empathetic and sensitive, beneficial for acting.

20:51 Actors can prepare for performances, article supports idea.

23:17 The speaker finds improv challenging due to its fast pace and pressure to be funny. They feel proud of acting on stage but don’t want to do improv.

25:21 Actor makes deliberate choices based on energy management, considering all project demands. Takes time to recharge for optimal performance.

28:15 Introvert actress discusses stereotypes, energy management, and demands of acting industry.

32:09 Embrace your true self, be comfortable with it.

36:29 Passionate advocate for Holocaust education develops educational and artistic initiative based on “Destined to Witness” by Hans Mossekoy.

39:48 Thankful for joining, contact for further connection and show participation. Embrace introverted strengths.

Podcast Transcript

Courtney Ferguson [00:00:00]:

Especially as an artist, it’s so fulfilling because as an actor, you get to play many different types of characters. So there’s this opportunity to express myself and to be able to explore and express different types of characters who think and feel different ways. And it’s an opportunity for me to express my emotions in a way that I don’t really get to in everyday life. So it’s very freeing. And again, as introverts, we are deep thinkers and we hold on to a lot. So when the opportunity comes to perform, it really feels like this really natural release to be able to share that side of myself with people.

David Hall [00:00:47]:

Hello, and welcome to the Quiet and Strong podcast, especially for introverts. I’m your host David Hall and creator of Quietandstrong.com. This is a weekly podcast dedicated to understanding the strengths and needs of introverts. Introversion is not something to fix, but to be embraced normally. We will air each episode on a Monday. Be sure to subscribe on your favorite platform, leave a review, share with a friend, help get the word out there. Courtney Ferguson is a New York Atlanta based actress. She created Introvert Actress as a way to empower fellow introverts and to provide a sneak peek into what it means to be an introvert navigating, an industry that is often very extroverted. Courtney is not only an introvert, but has also dealt with shyness, anxiety, and, believe it or not, stage fright. She aims to inspire and encourage with her journey and dispel the negative misconceptions about introverts. Courtney is a proud member of Actors Equity. All right. I’m very excited for my guest, Courtney Ferguson. She calls herself the Introvert Actress, and we will get into that. Welcome, Courtney.

Courtney Ferguson [00:02:02]:

Oh, wow. Thank you so much, David. Thank you for having me.

David Hall [00:02:06]:

It is great to have you. I follow Courtney on Instagram, and she puts out some great content on introversion, and we’ll get into that. So tell us a little bit more about yourself, Courtney.

Courtney Ferguson [00:02:22]:

I always start my story with talking about being an army brat. I grew up in army brat and moved around to many different in. I was born in Baltimore, and then we moved to Hawaii and then Washington, DC. And Georgia. So I’ve been all over the place, and I just always like to mention that because I think that that part of my life had a strong influence on me. And just being around different people from different cultures and different parts of the country has made me a pretty what I believe to be a well rounded and open minded person. So that’s a little bit about my know. Currently, I’m living in New York City. I am an actress, and I’m also a teacher. I teach voice and speech for actors here in New York. And in addition to that, I am also I’d like to mention, an aunt to seven nieces and nephews. All right.

David Hall [00:03:30]:

Okay. And Courtney, when did you determine that you were introvert and how did you embrace that?

Courtney Ferguson [00:03:37]:

Oh, my God. It’s been quite recently, honestly. I think within the past five or six years is when I’ve actually discovered that I was an introvert. I think I had the same journey that a lot of introverts have, where we kind of grow up feeling or thinking like something is quote unquote wrong with us, or that we don’t quite fit in. And I had read Susan Kane’s book Quiet, and that was the first time I heard the word introvert. And as I was flipping through the pages of that book, I was like, wow, this sounds very relatable and very familiar. And I remember taking that book and reading it and just kind of putting it on the shelf and it was in the back of my head. And then two years after that, I came across the book, the Introverts Way by Sophia Dembling. And I’m not joking at all when I say that book changed my life because it really helped me to understand introversion. It helped me to not feel alone because I just thought again, I thought something was wrong with me. I couldn’t really understand why I was the way that I was. And that book answered a lot of questions for me. And that began my journey of embracing my introversion when I read that book and I was like, wow, there’s other people like me. My experiences are not OD or weird or anything like that. And really, that was the beginning of me accepting my introversion and embracing it.

David Hall [00:05:15]:

Very nice. And I own both of those books too, and I highly recommend them. So great book. And you’re carrying on what they did for you. You’re doing that for other people right now and through your writing. That’s a common story with so many that I talk to my podcast guests that myself. We feel like something was wrong with us and then we figure it out. Now, having said that, there are people that understand their introversion all along, and that’s wonderful, but that wasn’t our experience. I feel fortunate. My wife is a fellow introvert, but she’s always just been confident in who she is and understanding her gifts.

Courtney Ferguson [00:06:01]:

Wow.

David Hall [00:06:03]:

So that has been really helpful to me. But there’s so many of us that felt like there was something wrong, and it’s part of a journey. And hopefully this work that you and I are doing and many others, it’s helping people figure that out earlier, that they have some great strengths. And of course, that’s what this show is about. We talk about embracing our strengths, honoring our needs, and of course, busting those myths out there. So do you have a couple of myths you want to bust about introversion?

Courtney Ferguson [00:06:35]:

Well, one, I know we’re going to talk about this at some point, but that introverts can’t be actors or performers. That’s definitely one myth that I’d like to bust. I think another myth that I’d like to bust is that I don’t know the word. Like, I hate to use this word, but the word boring comes up a lot for introverts. I definitely don’t think we’re boring. We just kind of enjoy things in a different way or we have our own way of absorbing things around us or having a good time. So I definitely wouldn’t call that boring. It’s just a different way of enjoying things yeah.

David Hall [00:07:16]:

For sure.

Courtney Ferguson [00:07:16]:

And observing the world.

David Hall [00:07:18]:

Yeah. And if people don’t know, it’s not boring in our heads.

Courtney Ferguson [00:07:25]:

Exactly.

David Hall [00:07:26]:

And the way that you want to do things, it’s not right or wrong. It’s just different. And yeah, I wouldn’t call it boring either.

Courtney Ferguson [00:07:38]:

We’re definitely going to get things. And I was going to say, that’s definitely one of those things I wish I had known and embraced when I was younger. So I didn’t spend so much time thinking that, again, something was wrong with me. But yeah, hopefully, again, like you said, with what we do, we can kind of encourage people so they don’t think there’s something wrong with them.

David Hall [00:08:00]:

Yeah. So I got asked and I’ve been asked, can introverts be actors or other things? I’m not an actor, but I really like giving speeches. Sometimes people think that’s strange. So how do you respond to that? Can an introvert act?

Courtney Ferguson [00:08:22]:

Yeah. For me, guest introverts can act. And I think for me, when you look at some of the great actors and actresses, I’m not trying to put myself in that category, but I’m just saying, go ahead. You look at some of the greats you look at Daniel Day Lewis or anything like that. I think most of those people actually are highly introverted. It’s hard because they’re celebrities and they’re in the limelight, but I think they are highly introverted. And the work that they do of absorbing themselves in a character, the research that you have to do, the time that you have to spend with the script and things like that, I think those require a lot of very introverted traits. So when people say that introverts can’t be actors, I just think it’s kind of silly. And I know why they say it, because acting is seen as a very extroverted thing, and you have to be loud and outgoing and things like that. But I think acting itself and just the process of it and what you have to go through in terms of analyzing a script and analyzing a character and research and understanding that character, I think that’s a very introvertive act, to be honest with.

David Hall [00:09:38]:

Yeah. Yeah. And people would say, oh, no, not Daniel Day Lewis. Right. He can’t be an introvert. But if you got to know know, he’s probably a really deep know. And I think people are surprised because they really don’t understand what introversion is. They have these false ideas and it’s really we’re deep thinkers. And when I was talking to you before. I think I said something like, actually, I have a lot to say because I’m an introvert. I have all these thoughts and again, I haven’t been in a play. I’ve been in a play maybe like when I was in middle school, but I love to speak. I’m doing this podcast and so it’s kind of crazy that people think that we don’t want to perform in some way. It’s like we do have a lot to say. We want to show our gifts. We enjoy it for many different reasons.

Courtney Ferguson [00:10:35]:

Yeah, I think especially as an artist, it’s so fulfilling because as an actor, you get to play many different types of characters. So there’s this opportunity to express myself and to be able to explore and express different types of characters who think and feel different ways. And it’s an opportunity for me to express my emotions in a way that I don’t really get to in everyday life. So it’s very freeing. And again, as introverts, we are deep thinkers and we hold on to a lot. So when the opportunity comes to perform, it really feels like this really natural release to be able to share that side of myself with people.

David Hall [00:11:19]:

Absolutely. It’s funny because half the population are introverts and I would just guess I don’t know, it’d be interesting to find out. But probably at least half the actors are introverts. Know, maybe more, I don’t know.

Courtney Ferguson [00:11:38]:

Yeah, I would think so. You know, I’ve done my little research to know which actors in Hollywood are introverts, and there’s definitely certain names that have popped up that I think would shock people. And actually it’s interesting because I would think that some of them maybe have been on the same journey of discovering who they are as introverts and simultaneously being thrust into the limelight. I’m talking about celebrities specifically, but then being thrust into the limelight and having to deal with that. I don’t think that could be easy at all.

David Hall [00:12:12]:

Yeah, we’re going to definitely talk about that with yourself and I’m sure it’s similar. So how did you start the Introvert Actress? That’s your website, that’s your handle on Instagram.

Courtney Ferguson [00:12:26]:

Yeah, I started it last year. And this was like when the pandemic first started and everyone it was kind of a trending joke, but everyone started talking about being introverts because everybody was inside lockdown. And so it became a joke about like, OOH, introverts are winning, right? And and then I think it was like World Introvert Day or something like that. And it’s funny, David, because I bought the Domain Introvert Actress, like maybe months prior and I had been writing blogs, but I was too scared to post anything. And then the pandemic happened and introversion was trending and then it was World Introvert Day and I was like, I don’t know, I kind of feel like this is maybe a good time to do this. So I officially made my blog and my website live, and then I made my Instagram live around the same time. And I think I had finally understood what introversion was. And there was a part of me that was really accepting of myself, and I just wanted to share that journey of I was just I was discovering so much because I was know Sophia Dembling’s book. I was reading Lori Helgo’s book and I was discovering so much. And I think that’s also where a lot of the inspiration came to just start the blog and my Instagram page, because I was like, I kind of want to share this because it feels wonderful and liberating. And just to find online that there was a whole other community of introverts who were able to relate to what I was saying and it was synonymous. I was sharing my journey as an introvert. And then I realized this is also my story of being an actor as well. And so I just kind of put those two things together. And, yeah, I came up with introvert.

David Hall [00:14:40]:

Awesome. Awesome. And you mentioned a third book, Laurie Helgo, and I’m just going to plug that, Introvert Power. So I also own that book, and Lori Helgo has been very influential to me. So that’s another great book. Introvert power. And I love that you launched on world introvert day. That’s also when I launched this podcast. Yeah, 2021, I put out this podcast, and again, it takes time to do the podcast, but I just kept running across so many people. Some of it was because of the pandemic, similar people saying, oh, yeah, introverts are this or introverts are that, and people just like, oh, my, introvert or extrovert, I don’t understand. And there was so much just misunderstanding. I’m like, I got to do this. So that’s something we have in common. World introvert day. Yeah, next one’s coming up, January 2. We’ll have to celebrate then, too.

Courtney Ferguson [00:15:40]:

Yeah, for sure.

David Hall [00:15:43]:

So tell me about how do you bring your introverted strengths into acting?

Courtney Ferguson [00:15:50]:

Man, there’s so many, really, if I had to choose a couple of them, I think most introverts, not all introverts or HSPs or highly sensitive people, but I do think introverts in general tend to be a bit more empathetic and a bit more sensitive. And I think that sensitivity really serves me a lot as an artist, just in my abilities to sit with and understand the characters that I’m playing. But also, just as an actor, being sensitive is a good thing. Having the sensitivity to be with a scene partner and be in the moment and just there’s this term in acting that’s called working from moment to moment to moment and being there with your scene partner, there’s a sensitivity that is required for that kind of work, and I think that really serves me for that. I’m very emotional, so I can cry easily, I get upset easily, and I don’t say that to sound hacky. It’s just I really do have a sensitivity that allows, when I work, to just kind of emotionally let myself go through the ups and downs. That I think is a strength, because that’s what actors train for. They train to have that sensitivity. You want to be that sensitive as an artist, it makes you a more compelling actor. So I definitely think that’s a huge strength of mine that I think comes from my introversion. Honestly.

David Hall [00:17:33]:

Yeah. And highly sensitive. It will definitely be a topic that will be part of this podcast. It’s going to vary from person to person. But I love how everything that we talk about as introverts, you and I, we may differ, but all of it is good. There’s no good or bad in any of it. And I love that you’re able to bring the strength of that into what you do. Another thing with us is we definitely spend a lot of time in our Eds. To me, that’s the definition of what introversion is. We naturally drift into thought. We spend a lot of time there. So how does that help you in your career as an actress?

Courtney Ferguson [00:18:22]:

Yeah, I think in terms of specifically acting itself, it’s like perfect. Maybe your listeners don’t know, but with acting, there’s various different techniques. The technique that I know is the Meisner technique, and you have Stanislavsky and Utah and things like that, but I know the Meisner technique, and Meisner is very specifically geared towards what in the technique. It’s called living truthfully under imaginary circumstances. So we spend a lot of time working in the imagination, and it’s just perfect for me because, again, we spend a lot of times in our head as actors. So when I get a script and I’m looking at the character and the given circumstances and things of that nature, I get to just live in that world. And that’s part of my preparation as an actor. That’s part of the preparation. So that definitely serves me in terms of the artistry, in terms of the craft, for sure, yeah.

David Hall [00:19:29]:

Introverts, we have great imaginations. I think that’s going to really help some folks realizing, hey, that’s something you bring to this. And another thing. I know when I say honoring our needs, we need to prepare for things. You just mentioned preparation. How important is preparation in your work as an actress?

Courtney Ferguson [00:19:52]:

Oh, it’s so important. I mean, you should be preparing anyway as an actor or an actress. But for me, first of all, it’s the only way that I can truly be free during a performance is if I have, like, do an insane amount of preparation. And that’s learning the lines, understanding the character, analyzing the script and things of that nature. There’s just no other way around it. I can’t get up on stage and wing anything or hope for the best. There has to be an insane amount of preparation for me to feel comfortable being on stage or in front of the camera, but also just to have the freedom. None of it really matters unless you get yourself to a point where you have the freedom to you’ve done your preparation, and then you can just be in the moment, and you can just perform and not have to really think about things. That comes with an insane amount of preparation. You can’t wing that.

David Hall [00:20:51]:

Yeah. That’s awesome. So somebody definitely that wants to act or is acting already can use that. But anybody listening, no matter what, you’re best, we do best with Know. I prepare for this podcast. Courtney and I had a nice conversation yesterday. We talked about it. I sent her some questions. I was thinking of know, we we’re going to talk about things we didn’t talk about, and that’s fine. But for the most part, you prepare, whether that’s a speech or a presentation, an important conversation, you can prepare. And it’s never going to be perfect. There’s going to be things that come up, but we do our best work. So that is really great that you said that. So along those lines, you can also find some great articles from Courtney on introvert. Deer and in one of them, she said, acting, it gives you the opportunity to not trip over your words. And I think that kind of goes along with what you were just saying.

Courtney Ferguson [00:21:58]:

Yeah.

David Hall [00:22:00]:

With your preparation.

Courtney Ferguson [00:22:02]:

Yeah. Again, I don’t want to generalize all introverts, but I do think that some of us and I know for myself, I’ve definitely had issues with sometimes public speaking or just speaking in social situations in general, and my sentences don’t always tend to be fluid, and I get worried about, am I saying the right thing? And my words are choppy things of that nature. And when you’re acting again, yes, somebody has written the lines for you, so I don’t have to think about those things. Somebody wrote the line, and all I have to do is say it. And that’s a beautiful sense of freedom to not have to think about the words and how they’re going to come out of your mouth. And is somebody judging me? And did I say this right? So that is one of the beautiful things about having someone writing lines for you to say.

David Hall [00:22:56]:

Yeah. And sometimes maybe you’re giving a speech, it’s the same thing. You’re writing your own lines, and you’re thinking about them ahead of time. So when the time comes, you’re ready. In the same article, you said you draw the line at improv. So tell us about that. That’s kind of going along with what you’re talking about.

Courtney Ferguson [00:23:17]:

Yeah, improv is just a no. And I’ve tried it, to be honest with you, I really have tried it. I tried to put myself out there and give it a shot and be like, maybe this will be a good experience, but it’s the spontaneity of it and how fast paced. I think improv is you really have to think on your toes, and thinking on your toes in that way is just not my strong suit. And then thinking on your toes in that way in front of an audience, and then thinking on your toes in front of an audience and having to be funny, it’s too much. I’m like it’s a bit too much for me. And the act of getting on stage as an actor in general, that in itself, I’m just always so proud of myself every time I do it. That improv is just kind of like, I can leave that behind. I don’t need to add that to my arsenal. But, yeah, it’s a little too much. It’s too fast paced for me, and you have to really be on your toes and yeah, it’s not my strong suit.

David Hall [00:24:21]:

Yeah. And I think that’s the important point is that, you know yourself, we don’t want to generalize. There’s probably a lot of introverts that I think a lot of comedians are introverts, but the improv comes fast to them, and they’re able to do it. It’s knowing yourself and what you want to do and what a that’s not a strength of mine. I think that’s the important part.

Courtney Ferguson [00:24:54]:

Yeah, I wish I’ve tried. I want everybody I have tried, but it never really works for me.

David Hall [00:25:05]:

So another important part of being an introvert is just managing our energy, figuring out what drains us. So how do you do that? How do you manage your energy in the work that you do and in your personal life?

Courtney Ferguson [00:25:21]:

Yeah, I think as an actor, as a performer, I have to make very deliberate decisions about the roles that I accept or the projects that I decide to be a part of. And because of, like you’re saying, introverts have to manage their energy. I don’t just look at the role. I look at the project in its entirety and what the demands might be for me as an actor. Because you don’t just get to perform. Sometimes you have to promote the film or promote the show, whatever it is that you’re doing, things of that nature. So I look at what those demands might be all in all, and if I feel like it’s something I can handle, then I can accept it. If I feel like it’s something that just might completely burn me out, then maybe not. And it’s never a fun thing to have to turn anything down. But I do have to think about those things because I want people to see me at my best and I want to be my best. And so I have to think ahead of time. Like, okay, can I manage this project and all the requirements that are going to come with it? That’s a big one for me, just as an actor. And then in everyday life, I have so many treat yourself kind of days that maybe too many of them. But I just make sure I really do. I have enough energy to do my job, which is teaching voice and speech with class preparations and being a teacher in front of many different students throughout the week. It drains you a lot. It drains you a lot. So there’s just days. It’s usually Friday nights and Sundays where I just don’t do anything. I don’t think about work. I am very much a hermit. I might not even see family or friends. And I just spend that time with myself just so I can recharge and I can be ready and fresh and available for the following week that’s coming up. And I’m not afraid to say no to things anymore. I think that helps, too.

David Hall [00:27:33]:

Yeah, that’s key. And sometimes you might need that time by yourself, like you describe. And I know I’ve had to struggle with not feeling guilty about that.

Courtney Ferguson [00:27:43]:

If I need just to have some.

David Hall [00:27:46]:

Time, I have lots to do. And so sometimes I might feel guilty I should be doing something. But the recharge is so important to help you do all the things you need to do.

Courtney Ferguson [00:27:57]:

Yes. The recharge is like, we need that as introverts, so it’s pretty non negotiable.

David Hall [00:28:05]:

Yeah. So are there still expectations in the acting work that you do that you might still struggle with as an introvert?

Courtney Ferguson [00:28:15]:

Yeah, I love that you asked that question. And I think that’s another one of the reasons why I started Introvert Actress is because of those expectations like you’re talking about. I’ll say one thing. I still think there is a general stereotype that all actors are outgoing. A lot of introverts are outgoing. But I mean, actors are extroverted and over the top and loud and love to be the center of attention all the time. Sometimes I don’t like telling people I’m an actor because immediately the attention is put on me and they want me to do something. You know what I mean? It’s this weird thing that people have about being actors. So fighting that stereotype is one thing. I think the other thing is it’s kind of like what I was saying about managing my energy. When it comes to being a part of a production or a show, you don’t just get to play the character. You have to promote the show. You have to do interviews, you have to do photo shoots, you have to do press releases and things of that nature. And if you think of on a large scale, think of the cast of Know. When a new Marvel movie comes out, they’re constantly on the go just promoting interviews, photo shoots, things like that. And I have not done anything to that extreme. Again, I’m not comparing myself, but I’m just to give an idea of the demand outside of just acting itself of having to be there and available to promote whatever it is that you’re doing or whatever events they have outside of the actual production. That can be pretty draining at times. And I think when I first got into acting, I really underestimated how draining those demands could be, and it’s been one of those things that I’ve had to find a balance for for myself because, yeah, I wish I could just act, and then that’s it. But there are other Very important demands that you have to meet in regards to the industry.

David Hall [00:30:30]:

Okay, so just for the example, in promoting, what strategies have you used to deal with your energy when that’s so draining? Sometimes?

Courtney Ferguson [00:30:42]:

Yeah. Well, one nice trick that I think a lot of us introverts do, if there’s more extroverted person in the cast, maybe hopefully try to let them take over Most of the talking.

David Hall [00:30:54]:

Okay, good to partner, right?

Courtney Ferguson [00:30:59]:

To have that little introvert extrovert partnership there’s that if it’s like, a situation. I did have a show Where I was the lead, so I had a couple of times where I had to give interviews by myself. And in that regard, I think there’s a lot of things that I do in terms of breath work and meditation and things like that just to calm myself and to level my energy, because there is a certain point where you just kind of have to do these things, unfortunately, so there’s breath work and things like that. I am a voice and speech teacher, so I do a lot of voice and breath warm ups that are really helpful for me that overall just help me manage my energy when it comes to things like that.

David Hall [00:31:50]:

Very nice. So what would you say again? I think your story Is really going to be helpful for people. What would you say Your biggest piece of advice would be for introvert or someone wanting to get into acting? It could be the same advice, or it could be Two pieces of advice. What would you say that would be?

Courtney Ferguson [00:32:09]:

I think you really need to know who you are and be comfortable with that, and you need to know what it is that you can handle. And I think me and you kind of spoke on this yesterday, but for me, if something comes up in terms of casting or a role or anything like that sometimes directors and things like that, they want to work. With a certain type of person, and maybe they want somebody who’s a bit more bouncy and off the walls and singing show tunes every 3 seconds, which is great. But I know that I’m just not that person personality wise. And I’m okay with that. And I go into a room And I present myself as I am, and it’s kind of like A take it or leave it kind of situation. Not in a disrespectful way, but it’s just this is what I have to offer. I can’t be something else and to be comfortable with that, I think that’s one of the biggest. Things because otherwise people are going to try to get something else out of you. And if you’re not comfortable with who you are, then you’re really going to struggle with that. So you just have to be comfortable with your introversion, you have to be comfortable with your temperament and you have to know it’s. Like we said yesterday, David, as introverts, we’re not going to change, like who we are, personalities, it is not going to change. And so you have to just get comfortable with that. And sometimes that’s going to work for people and other times it’s not. And you have to be okay with that.

David Hall [00:33:47]:

When we were having that conversation, I want to bring out something else that you said that I thought was really important. No one’s ever going to call me bubbly or Gregarious, but I am passionate about what I do. Yes, and you said along with that, you’re not going to be that way either, but you do the work you put in what you need to put in to be a great actress, and that’s really important. So no matter what it is, if it’s acting or no matter what kind of work or endeavor you’re involved in, you bring your best self to it. And that’s something we talked about yesterday. So even though you’re not going to be the Gregor I don’t even like that word carrier, you’re not going to be that person. You don’t need to be. It’s not you. So you’re saying be yourself, and I think that’s the best advice, but be your best self. It’s not an excuse for not doing anything. It’s like, no, here’s what I need to do. So, like, if I’m giving a speech, my friend might be able to wing that speech and I could be jealous of my friend or I could say, I need to do this to prepare and give that best effort. And so that’s something that you said that you bring to acting, and I just thought that was key. So I’m glad we talked about that yesterday.

Courtney Ferguson [00:35:06]:

Yeah, I’m glad we talked about it too. And just to continue to piggyback off of that. Yeah, just be your best self, be prepared. I kind of like that quote of outwork everyone in the room and I kind of try to keep that mindset so when it comes to being in certain situations, I can stand out in that know, because I’m just not going to get the attention, know, being talkative. So if I could stand out through my work ethic, that’s what’s I think important.

David Hall [00:35:41]:

Yeah. And no one can take that from you. You can always stand out with your work ethic, bringing your best self. So beautiful. That’s beautiful. Courtney all right, so we mentioned that people can find you@introvertactress.com, right. And also on Instagram.

Courtney Ferguson [00:35:59]:

Yes.

David Hall [00:36:00]:

Anything else you want to say that we haven’t talked about today?

Courtney Ferguson [00:36:03]:

Oh, man. Oh my gosh. We talked about so many good things. Do I have anything else to say? No, I think that’s it. Oh, my gosh. We hit so much ground. Really. I know your questions are awesome. Thank you.

David Hall [00:36:21]:

And you also brought up to me that you have another project that you’re working on, maybe not exactly related, but tell us about that.

Courtney Ferguson [00:36:29]:

Yes, this is totally separate from introvert actress, and if you look on my Instagram page, I have an article talking about why the Holocaust is important to me. And I’ve been very avid learner of the Holocaust for years now. It’s just been a strong interest and passion of mine to teach people about the Holocaust because I truly believe in the same never again and learning from the past, not repeat it in the future. So Holocaust education has been a huge passion of mine, and I have a project called At Destined Curriculum. Me and actually one of my fellow friends from college started it together, and it’s based on the book Destined to Witness by Hans Mossakoi. And Hans Mossekoy was a black German who lived and survived through Nazi Germany. And so our project is bringing a lot of different elements together, but it’s all about education, because that’s my passion, Holocaust education. But one part of it is creating a fresh curriculum around the book to teach to students in middle schools. I mean, middle schools, high schools, museum settings. Our vision is to teach it in different organizations. And then the other part of it, because we’re both artists and my friend from college, she is a filmmaker as well, so there’s a filmmaking aspect of it as well, where we want to teach the students how to write scenes, how to write a script, and how to film those scenes so they have those skills as well. So it’s an educational and an artistic initiative that’s all surrounded, that all kind of revolves around the book destined to Witness by Hans Mossakoi. And again, like I said, Holocaust education is something that really, really passionate about. So we’re really trying to offer something to schools and to students that looks at the topic of Holocaust education in a slightly different way.

David Hall [00:38:57]:

Okay, never again.

Courtney Ferguson [00:38:59]:

That’s powerful.

David Hall [00:39:03]:

You’re doing some great work as an educator and also as an actress. Thank you so much for sharing your story. People will benefit whether they want to be an actor or not. They can bring their introverted strengths and honor those needs into what they do. So thank you so much for being on the show today. This has been a wonderful conversation.

Courtney Ferguson [00:39:22]:

Courtney, thank you so much for inviting me. I really appreciate it. It’s always a privilege to be able to talk just introversion, let alone introversion and acting and being an artist. And yeah, I think we introverts need this. It’s good to know that we’re not alone and that there is nothing wrong, absolutely nothing wrong with us, and it’s very empowering. So thank you all right.

David Hall [00:39:48]:

Thanks so much. Thank you so much for joining me today. I look forward to further connecting with you. Reach out at david@quietandstrong.com. Check out the website quietandstrong.com. I’ll add social media channels for me and my guests to the show. Notes. Please comment on social media posts. Send me topics or guests you’d like to see on the show. There’s so many great things about being an introvert, and so we need those to be understood. Get to know your introverted strengths and needs and be strong. 

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